Lamborghini
Posted By: 3DRichard
Lamborghini - 07/12/06 18:08
Today i started to model a Lamborghini Gallardo.
After few hours, here's the result, it has 1376 triangles and 742 vertices.
What's your opinion about it? Any suggestions to change something?
Now i'm adding details to it.
Posted By: lostclimate
Re: Lamborghini - 07/12/06 18:16
well, i dont know about cars, so i dont know if its accurate, but it sure looks pretty
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Lamborghini - 07/12/06 18:16
That looks like a really good start! I can't really suggest anything, 'cause I have no idea what the car looks like. But from what I do know about cars in general, this looks very nice.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/12/06 18:42
About the accuracy, the car front fits the photo and blueprint very well, but the rear doesn't so i will model it according to photo.
Here's the wireframe matched to the photo.
Posted By: BigDaz
Re: Lamborghini - 07/12/06 21:32
Excellent
Posted By: beegee
Re: Lamborghini - 07/13/06 16:34
man, you're really great modeller!! excellent design, super skin and perfect rough construction. Keep it up!
mfg beegee
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/13/06 16:57
@beegee, it doesn't have a skin yet
Posted By: FoxZero
Re: Lamborghini - 07/13/06 20:16
Pretty accurate so far. You've utilized the polies quite good to this point. I'm not real familier with this particular Lamborghini model, but it looks quite nice. Lambos always excel in performence and style.
Some things I did spot from the photo. You are missing the intakes on the rear fenders and the rear spioler. The rear hood might be transparent, but I'm not real familier with this car.
Keep it up! I'm a huge car fanatic!
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/14/06 17:10
Little update
Faces 1686
Vertices 887
Posted By: beegee
Re: Lamborghini - 07/14/06 19:45
@3DRichard: Sorry ,i was in hurry and only saw the great yellow lambo.
Okay what's now yours -- the first or the second pic?.(...joke)
I love this marque,the best one in the world.
mfg beegee
Posted By: EpsiloN
Re: Lamborghini - 07/14/06 19:59
You should put this model for selling
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 08:43
Added more details
Faces 2304
Vertices 1199
+ Wireframe
Posted By: aztec
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 10:43
Nice dude this moddel is awesome is it made with milkshape?
Now it just needs a good skin and then it would be perfect maybe search for someone hwo can skin it.
Regards
aztec
Posted By: AlexGFX
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 10:54
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Nice dude this moddel is awesome is it made with milkshape?
Now it just needs a good skin and then it would be perfect maybe search for someone hwo can skin it.
Regards
aztec
I just betcha he's using 3D Studio Max and Knows how to UV Map
Looks great, nice work.
I do have once complaints, you could have baked all the details into a normal map...
Posted By: aztec
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 11:29
can I download 3D studio Max somewhere?
Posted By: AlexGFX
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 15:19
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can I download 3D studio Max somewhere?
Sure, Autodesk.com for about $3000 Great tool, love it.
If your a student you can grab it for about $500 USD.
-Alex
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/15/06 15:35
Yes i'm using 3D Studio Max and i'm going to bake the details to normal map.
Now i will add a little more details to some parts and then i'll make side mirrors.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 10:32
Added side mirrors and exhaust. I think modeling is finished, now comes the hardest part, to texture it.
Faces 3010
Vertices 1553
If there something wrong with the model tell me and i fix it.
Posted By: frazzle
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 12:35
Well I'm just back from my holiday and it
seems that I have misted alot of new topics so
why not start with this exellent topic !!!
The Lamborghini Gallardo, mmmmm what a car,
I have always loved cars but I had a crush on this one
It's actually from the Audi department so I guess you all know now
which car mark I adore
Here are my C&C:
There is actually nothing negative to talk about
except for this part, you said:
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I think modeling is finished
What about the tires LOL ??
Another thing, you forgot the Lamborigi symbol
but I don't know if that's legal if you put it on
the car, better ask conitect about that 
Well that's it, so far because you said you're
going to skin it now but I think that modeling
the car itself is even harder. I guess if
you can model something like this, you're
quite a talented guy !!!!
Cheers
Frazzle
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 13:07
About the Lamborghini symbol i didn't knew is that legal or not, so didn't put it on.
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I think modeling is finished
I was thinking about the car body, wheels will come later.
Posted By: frazzle
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 15:02
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I think modeling is finished
I was thinking about the car body, wheels will come later.
Oke, couldn't know that
Good luck on finishing the car !!!!
Posted By: phil3d
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 15:11
i would model the lamps too.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/16/06 20:51
Thanks for the advice phil3d, i will try to model the lamps, but the result wouldn't be very good, because i haven't found any good reference photos of them.
Posted By: phil3d
Re: Lamborghini - 07/17/06 07:30
when u make the lamps just with a texture it looks very strange from some pserpectives. when u use a texture where u see the lamps from above the car will look strange from the front for example. u can surely spend more polies depends on what u are doing with it.
gta san andreas cars have around 3000-5000 polies
any new racing game for ps2 or something has around 20000-100000
just an advice
Posted By: frazzle
Re: Lamborghini - 07/17/06 10:35
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gta san andreas cars have around 3000-5000 polies
any new racing game for ps2 or something has around 20000-100000
Well I think it's normal that the cars in GTA san andreas have around
3000-5000 polies, it's a big world out there in san andreas
Beside, the PS2 power can't handle a big world WITH cars around 20000-100000 polies
I'll quess we'll have to wait until november 2006 for the PS3.
I think the cars in the new GTA on the PS3 will be over 100000 polies easily.
Sorry to go off topic but I just can't wait to get the PS3
N.B: Happy Birthday 3DRichard
So far this is an excellent model.. I love that car too, it's my favorite.
Posted By: TUSC
Re: Lamborghini - 07/17/06 21:05
I do like this model a lot! How can you do this work at the age of 15 years?!!!
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I do like this model a lot! How can you do this work at the age of 15 years?!!!
Why not? Modeling only takes a little getting used to. Once you understand the program, you can create anything you want, no matter the age.
Anyways, cool car model. Looks good. Better than what I could do and I'm 19!
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/18/06 17:23
This Lamborghini is only my fourth attempt to model a car, so it isn't that good and
i'm having problems with texturing, because my previous cars weren't textured.
Right now i'm searching for tutorials how to create good textures for cars,
so instead making texture i'm modeling wheels, later will be lamps and maybe simple interior.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/21/06 17:55
Sorry for took so long, i needed to learn how to use gimp.
So here's the wheel and my first texture for it.
Faces 968
Vertices 491
Posted By: frazzle
Re: Lamborghini - 07/21/06 20:49
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Sorry for took so long, i needed to learn how to use gimp.
Take your time 3DRichard, the more time you are spending on this the better the result will be !!
I know that modeling a tyre isn't that easy and it is even harder to make the appropriate skin for your mesh from the tyre.
I think I know where'd you got you're inspiration, one of the following two pictures from google:
http://www.jamesaevans.com/images/threedy/Gallardo%20Wheel%20-%2029c.jpg
http://www.jamesaevans.com/images/threedy/Gallardo%20Wheel%20-%2029a.jpg
And I can tell you, yes great choise, that's what I call Lamborghini style !!
Just keep up the great work, this could be one of the best 3DGS car I have ever seen here on the forum !!!!
Oh and btw if you're starting you cars animation don't forget to include the special way of how the doors open, other it isn't a thrue Lamborghini Gallardo 
:
http://www.allcarwallpapers.com/wallpapers/previews/hamann-lamborghini-gallardo-7201.jpg
Cheers
Frazzle
Posted By: VPrime
Re: Lamborghini - 07/22/06 00:41
Looks great..
But the wheels are too thin, and the tread pattern is all wrong for a car like a lambo.
And frazzle id otn know if its the best, but it is up there
(there wasa really nice high poly RX8 posted some time ago)
any ways keep up the great work, i perosnally hate modelling cars.. for some reason i could never get them to look right....
Posted By: FoxZero
Re: Lamborghini - 07/22/06 01:31
Nice man! The wheel isa little thin and the treads are way too bright. Just darken them and they should look right.
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any ways keep up the great work, i perosnally hate modelling cars.. for some reason i could never get them to look right....
I feel the complete oposite. Remember my Predator 5000? That was my first real model attempt ever. LOL
Posted By: AlexGFX
Re: Lamborghini - 07/22/06 01:43
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Looks great..
But the wheels are too thin, and the tread pattern is all wrong for a car like a lambo.
And frazzle id otn know if its the best, but it is up there
(there wasa really nice high poly RX8 posted some time ago)
any ways keep up the great work, i perosnally hate modelling cars.. for some reason i could never get them to look right....
Your just lazy...
Texture is looking good, looking forward to seeing more.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/22/06 07:17
That was the front wheel, i agree that it is too thin, but i made it according to blueprint and it is 20 CM width.
I googled this
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Front Wheels: 19 x 21 IN / 48.3 x 53.3 CM
Rear Wheels: 19 x 28 IN / 48.3 x 71.1 CM
car body:
Length: 169.3 IN / 4300 MM
Width: 74.8 IN / 1900 MM
Height: 45.9 IN / 1166 MM
But when i make the wheels that wide, here's the result.
the upper front wheels are 20 CM width and rear wheels are 30 CM width
the lower front wheels are 53,3 CM width and rear wheels are 71,1 CM width.
About the tread pattern
I googled this
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Front Tires: 235/35 ZR 19
Rear Tires: 295/30 ZR 19
so i found this zr 19
and made texture from it.
Posted By: VPrime
Re: Lamborghini - 07/22/06 21:54
hmm i dont know, they just look too thin.. then they lok to wide
Not the best picture but it sort of shows the wheel widths..
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 07:11
Ok i will try to match the wheels according to this photo
Posted By: Kaylie
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 08:58
Great Work.
Just one Question.
What you want to do with this model?
You can not sell it, you can not use it in a game.
Or do you have a licence for it?
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 09:29
Well, i'm making this car for learning purpose and testing my skils.
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You can not sell it, ...
Or do you have a licence for it?
No, i'm not going to sell it, because i don't have a licence, but i'm curious
what about all those Lamborghini cars in the internet shops(for example turbosquid), does all their creators have licenses?
Posted By: Kaylie
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 10:06
I don't know if they have a licence.
It's strange that a shop sells Lamborghini models and don't get problems.
I don't know anything about cars, but i now that you can not use copyrighted material. even not in a free product.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 10:42
Now the front wheels are 30 CM width and rear wheels are 40 CM width. What you think? The headlights isn't finished yet.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 19:43
Headlights finished.
Here's the polycount(without wheels)
Faces 3682
Vertices 1841
Posted By: FoxZero
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 19:51
Very impressive! The headlights are very nice. The shape of the car is perfect.
From the side the tires seem just a hair short in diameter. I'm referencing from the pic you used earlier. They just seemed to fill just a little more.
Posted By: ISG
Re: Lamborghini - 07/23/06 20:02
I think your tires are to "thin" from a side view. Add more to it and everything would look more proportional. Nice job so far though, really great work. Intersted to see how (if at all) the texturing comes out with it!
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/24/06 21:31
Posted By: frazzle
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 08:57
That just a perfect Lamborghini Gallardo man !!
Great skin, UVW mapping ??
This is just a pro model maded by a pro modeller
One more question, which skin size did you use ??
Nothing more to say here, an amazing job 3DRichard !!
Cheers
Frazzle
Posted By: aztec
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 10:57
you should look for someone who makes car games
this is aperfect Lamboghini
moddel really cool do you use 3D max?
Posted By: broozar
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 11:05
besides all fame and halleluja, some crits:
1) why are the front lamp cases black?
2) the rear light really need some rework, it just looks flat.
3) your baked texture must be giant, judging the smoothness of your shadows. i once did so with a car as well, but if it's a game-model, just keep the skin plain yellow (and very small), the engine does shading etc. all by itself.
4) for me, the tires don't fit, but that discussion's already passed. the spokes are too flat and need some curvature (dunno if it's the right word)
congrats for the overall shape and smoothness, looks professional.
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 14:15
Yes i'm using 3DsMax, i said that before.
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why are the front lamp cases black?
That is because it's my first attempt to make a texture.
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the rear light really need some rework, it just looks flat.
Ok, later i will model inside lights.
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your baked texture must be giant, judging the smoothness of your shadows. i once did so with a car as well, but if it's a game-model, just keep the skin plain yellow (and very small), the engine does shading etc. all by itself.
Foe now the skin is 1024x1024 and it's without shadows, later i'm going to make a smaller one, the shadows are so smooth because i rendered with skylight.
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for me, the tires don't fit, but that discussion's already passed. the spokes are too flat and need some curvature (dunno if it's the right word)
give me a picture of tire you tink is fitting and i put it on, later i'll try to improve the spokes.
Posted By: broozar
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 14:20
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your baked texture must be giant, judging the smoothness of your shadows. i once did so with a car as well, but if it's a game-model, just keep the skin plain yellow (and very small), the engine does shading etc. all by itself.
Foe now the skin is 1024x1024 and it's without shadows, later i'm going to make a smaller one, the shadows are so smooth because i rendered with skylight.
cool, i thought it was much larger (around double or quad), but hey, 1024² is ok. i just said it because of the smoothness of your shadows... nevermind.
wheels? maybe like this... (rear one)
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 15:02
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for me, the tires don't fit, but that discussion's already passed
I was thinking that you mean thread pattern, not the whole wheel.
Posted By: broozar
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 15:06
yeah, dunno how to express this properly in english
Posted By: Edgecrusher
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 15:47
this is BEAUTIFUL man, keep up the great work
Posted By: beegee
Re: Lamborghini - 07/25/06 20:05
great work, keep it up!
mfg beegee
Posted By: EpsiloN
Re: Lamborghini - 07/27/06 14:42
Right now on Discovery Channel there's a movie about Lamborghini
OMG,I just love the Diablo
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/27/06 14:52
Maybe later i'll make a Diablo.
Posted By: lostclimate
Re: Lamborghini - 07/31/06 14:55
wow, looking at this makes me want to make racing game just so i can ask to barrow that model
edit: you planning on selling it when your done with it? or is it just for personal use
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 07/31/06 16:02
I got a job offer to make some cars, Lamborghini Gallardo is in that list too, so i can't give it to you.
Now I have to make those cars, so i'll not be sending gallardo pictures until i finish all the cars.
Posted By: lostclimate
Re: Lamborghini - 07/31/06 16:55
lol, i wasnt planning on actually asking for it, i was joking
, but good luck on your job offer
Posted By: taipan
Re: Lamborghini - 08/02/06 10:45
Oh my!
I tried to make a lambo in Solidworks but nothing near this quality. That is top noth modelling
Posted By: TheExpert
Re: Lamborghini - 08/02/06 11:15
Put some reflection shader on some parts and the car will shine
Posted By: taipan
Re: Lamborghini - 08/02/06 11:45
Are you using newer version of max? Have you in that case tried it with mental ray? From CGtalk you can download mental ray maps ala car paint skin. That would be superb on the model (personal fav is black)
Posted By: 3DRichard
Re: Lamborghini - 08/03/06 15:50
I'm using version 8, car paint skin is in 3DsMax9
Posted By: taipan
Re: Lamborghini - 08/03/06 15:55
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I'm using version 8, car paint skin is in 3DsMax9
that might be but you can add a material-set made by people at CGtalk for free. Just add it in max8 and you'll have nice nice pictures
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