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Deleting a 6-sided mapping
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08/04/06 04:38
08/04/06 04:38
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Rad_Daddy
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Early on in my modle, I made a mapping for the entire side of the model all at once. Now, it is a jumbled mess of vertexes, and I dont know what goes where. I want to start over, but how do I clear all previous maps that I have made in the skin editor?
Thanks, Raddaddy
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
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08/04/06 04:49
08/04/06 04:49
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ulillillia
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The only way I know of how to do this is to group up what you have already mapped the way you want and map it accordingly. Let's say the G's are the good-mapped area of a simple terrain-like MDL file and the B's are the bad areas you want to dump entirely. Code:
GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGBBBBBBGGGGGGG GGGGGGBBBBBBBBGGGGGG GGGGGGBBBBBBBBGGGGGG GGGGGGGBBBBBBGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
Just select everything marked as a G in this example leaving out those marked with a B. You have to be in face mode for this to work. Then go to edit > create group. Switch to group mode and select the area that isn't part of the group you created and bring up the skin edittor. Now you won't see anything in there. This is the best method I can think of.
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
[Re: ulillillia]
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08/04/06 05:00
08/04/06 05:00
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Rad_Daddy
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Good call Ulillillia, but is this a practical solution. Because it dosent seem to have actually deleted anything, could that old mapping possibly come back to hurt me later on?
Thanks, Raddaddy
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
[Re: Rad_Daddy]
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08/04/06 05:11
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Yes it does. Did you know that, if you texture something and duplicate your single textured polygon, copy this in random amounts (in whole or in part), the file size of a model can grow to 10 MB, without a texture, one frame of animation, and only a few hundred polygons and vertices? I found this bug in 6.31.4 and it hasn't been fixed, despite reporting it. It's not readily apparent in 6.40.5. Unattached skin vertices don't always get deleted in full. They stay in the same spot and you otherwise couldn't tell if there were any because they occupy the exact same spot of another vertex.
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
[Re: ulillillia]
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08/04/06 05:52
08/04/06 05:52
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so... to prevent this, I would have to what... remodel the whole thing? That would be a pain. There should just be an option to delet individual maps. Would be much easier, and benificial, especially to the novice modeler, like me. Hmmm... ok, well thanks for the input Ulillillia. I will either live with the larger file size, or perhaps remodel it, and fix some of the other issues with it while im at it. (the is an open mesh SOMEWHERE... cant for the life of me find it ) Thanks again, RAddaddy
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
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08/04/06 06:03
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ulillillia
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This only happens when you copy/paste textured things (or when you have previously copied and pasted something). If you copy something untextured, this doesn't happen, unless you have previously copied a textured object. If you have to copy a textured object, do so, but only paste that item. If you need to copy something else, close MED and reopen it and your file to prevent this from getting out of hand. I have one model with over 4 million skin vertices because of this, but barely 1500 model vertices and 3000 faces.
What is needed is to be able to delete all unattached/unused vertices in the skin edittor.
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Re: Deleting a 6-sided mapping
[Re: ulillillia]
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08/04/06 19:07
08/04/06 19:07
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Hiya. Am I understanding correctly that you are saying you have already "UV Mapped" an object, then did some more modeling on it, and now your UV map is "all scewed up", and you want to 'fix' this? From the sound of it, MED doesn't handle "re-UVing" very well, so....don't use MED. I use a program called "Ultimate Unwrap 3D" ( http://www.unwrap3d.com/ ). It will set you back $50, but in all honesty, it's worth three times that. I recently was board, so I made about a half-dozen low-poly "fantasy-ish items" (go see the User Contributions forum). The UV'ing of those items took maybe a grand total of 4 hours. The great thing about UU3D is that it allows you to "re-do" UVing of all or some of the polygons on your model. So, if you UV map an entire humanoid robot, then make some modeling changes to his right arm, you can go back into UV3D and simply re-UV just his right arm. Try the UU3D demo and see for yourself.
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