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OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from another) #152924 09/09/07 06:02 09/09/07 06:02
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12 B blitzkrieg OP Newbie
blitzkrieg OP Newbie B Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12	I originally posted this in the getting started forum. I was told that it is best asked in here Quote: Hi As you can see by my lil post count there, im new here So last week i downloaded A7 to mess around with, attempted to foloow some tutorials, but there was always somthing misson or not explained in the tutorials avalible from this site. They are all mainly for old versions and need major updates! Anyway, that was no bug deal, i attempted to addapt, but for some stupid reson, whenever i rendered anything with A7 using the water or sky textures in standard.wad, it wouldnt render, insted telling me there is no visible blocks on the map.. EXCUSE ME? With no forum access due to a very poor automated email system that refused one adress for being hotmail and just didnt bother sending to the other 2, i decided to try A6 With A6 i have had much sucess, im quiet enjoying playing around and seeing what i can do. Now ive got to the c-script part. More complicated, and harder to learn. So i have endevored to learn c-script. Now i read that Lite-C and C-Script ARE NOT the same thing. So when i buy A7, i will have to learn all over again. I DO NOT WANT TO DO THIS and since from what i can tell A7 is buggy, i would like to purchase a full version of A6, however you site no longer offers it. So am i going to have to buy it from an old user, or do you still sell it.. Thanks Blitz Hopefully nobody minds the double post. Actually maybe someone can clear somthing else up. This forum is the official forum? Or is it just this one section that has direct relation to Conitec? Thanks in advance Blitz

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: blitzkrieg] #152925 09/09/07 14:52 09/09/07 14:52
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,140 Baunatal, Germany Tobias Moderator
Tobias Moderator Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 1,140 Baunatal, Germany	It makes no sense anymore to learn C-Script. The current manuals and tutorials are all for lite-C and if you can't even understand lite-C with a tutorial you will certainly not be able to learn the abandoned C-Script without a tutorial. So my advice is that you better find out what you havent understood in the tutorial and get this sorted out. A7 is easy and everyone else here is able to use it so you should be too.

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: Tobias] #152926 09/09/07 20:33 09/09/07 20:33
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12 B blitzkrieg OP Newbie
blitzkrieg OP Newbie B Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12	Whos looking for a tutorial? Not me... Its not a problem learning it. The problem is there is no good tutorials, they are all written by people who completely understand it, people who forget what it was like to be learning it for the first time. You can say A7 is easy all you like, it maybe. But the reson i dont give it a chance is because it refuses to render animated textures, telling me "there is no visable blocks on the map" Then theres the tutorial in the manual. It tells me to open example files. Ok, the first one opens fine, but the second Doesnt. Also returns some error. So, unless these bugs are worked out, i want nothing to do with a7!

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: blitzkrieg] #152927 09/10/07 00:43 09/10/07 00:43
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,538 WA, Australia J JibbSmart Expert
JibbSmart Expert J Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,538 WA, Australia	the latest A7 isn't buggy. well, everything has bugs, but it's no buggier than A6 (or at least not by much). it works flawlessly for me, because i know how to use it. there's a difference between buggy software and deprecated tutorials. your problem is probably deprecated tutorials. download the free version of lite-C and get used to that (it should come with a workshop, or there's one on the download page next to it), then popping into A7 will be no trouble when you're ready for it and a newer (perhaps more stable) version is out. Quote: You can say A7 is easy all you like, it maybe. But the reson i dont give it a chance is because it refuses to render animated textures, telling me "there is no visable blocks on the map" almost all problems people have are their own fault. i hope you've been asking about this in the level-editing forum, with screenshots and more info. too many times people talk about problems they have and don't give enough information regarding it. julz Formerly known as JulzMighty. I made KarBOOM!

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: Tobias] #152928 09/10/07 00:48 09/10/07 00:48
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,206 Innsbruck, Austria sPlKe Expert
sPlKe Expert Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 4,206 Innsbruck, Austria	Quote: A7 is easy and everyone else here is able to use it so you should be too. actually, the current A7 edition is pretty messed up. i cannot use it and i dont want to. if conitec gets some serious stuff done, il get A7.. in the emantime, i continue working with A6. im here since A4 days, and now i should learn so many things again? no, thank you... i understand this guy... IceValk Entertainment Website My online portfolio

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: sPlKe] #152929 09/10/07 02:14 09/10/07 02:14
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12 B blitzkrieg OP Newbie
blitzkrieg OP Newbie B Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12	Good, then its not just me... Like i said, i have no issues what so ever with A6, but A7 had too many problems, especially for a noob to be sorting out. As a noob, i want an application that works properly and does what i tell it to when i tell it to, without returning errors that do not happen in A6 from the same thing. I understand changes in Code/scripting, but theres are issues with the way the GUI works, so its nothing i can actually change! Blitz

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: blitzkrieg] #152930 09/10/07 06:47 09/10/07 06:47
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 28,024 Frankfurt jcl Chief Engineer
jcl Chief Engineer Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 28,024 Frankfurt	Well, I don't think that a bug only appears for you and mysteriously disappears for the thousands of other A7 users. Most people apparently have no problem to understand how to work with A7, but some may. However if you don't understand something, the assumption "it's not me but the software is buggy" normally won't get you much further. If you have problems, just ask for help on the forum. The tutorials were written for absolute beginners, but that does not mean that they are perfect. We're always interested in how to improve the tutorials. So if you found that some important information is hard to understand, missing, wrong or misleading, just inform us, describe your problem precisely and you'll be helped.

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: jcl] #152931 09/11/07 02:50 09/11/07 02:50
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12 B blitzkrieg OP Newbie
blitzkrieg OP Newbie B Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12	Its not a misunderstanding, i know how it should work. Quote: Well, I don't think that a bug only appears for you and mysteriously disappears for the thousands of other A7 users It could be somthing as simple as my OS is missing somthing or A7 having somthing slightly different from A6 that doesnt work with my CPU instruction set. Really tho i have no idea what the exact problem is. The really annoying part is it worked fine on my 1.4ghz machine. If the same thing produces 2 different results on 2 different machines, then IMO theres a problem somewhere

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: blitzkrieg] #152932 09/11/07 06:48 09/11/07 06:48
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 929 Spirit Moderator
Spirit Moderator Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 929	I think you should post to "Starting with Gamestudio" and explain your problem because at the moment you're making no sense, first you have problems with the tutorials and now its a 1.4 GHz machine, I think nobody has a clue what youre talking about.

Re: OLD VERSIONS (Referd to this section from anot [Re: Spirit] #152933 09/11/07 20:44 09/11/07 20:44
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12 B blitzkrieg OP Newbie
blitzkrieg OP Newbie B Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 12	There is NO PROBLEM with the 1.4 machine. Infact a7 runs fine and builds fine. However, when i run the same version on my AMDx2 it doesnt build and returns an error telling me i dont have any visible blocks on the map. This only happens if you use the sky or water texture, otherwise its fine. THIS THREAD IS NOT ABOUT SOLVING THIS BUG. I AM ASKING CAN U GET AN OLD VERSION AND ALL YOU GUYS DO IS INSIST A7 IS BUG FREE. Im sorry to pick on your godly version. But just because you dont have a problem or get errors, doesnt mean other people dont either. Now can someone from Conitec Answer my original question and tell me where i can purchase A6. If i cant, please update A7 Asap. Im not wasting money on somthing to have to run it on a slow outdated machine!

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