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Work your 3D ART #162010 10/19/07 00:28 10/19/07 00:28
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,856 TheExpert OP Senior Developer
TheExpert OP Senior Developer Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,856	Gotto that page : a BlitzBAsci 3D game : Direct X 7 hero animation are robotic somewhat but great game , great design , simple and effective 3D art. game and bloom test with Blitz3D 3D art basic but effective work your textures Click on images , or watch video at bottom page. blog Lot of people asking shaders , next gen , but they can't produce such 3D art even if they wanted Well lot of people should focus on making quality 3D art before asking features that won't make the game , 3d art for them Last edited by TheExpert; 10/19/07 00:33.

Re: Work your 3D ART [Re: TheExpert] #162011 10/19/07 04:22 10/19/07 04:22
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,131 M Matt_Aufderheide Expert
Matt_Aufderheide Expert M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,131	Quote: Lot of people asking shaders , next gen , but they can't produce such 3D art even if they wanted ...Well lot of people should focus on making quality 3D art before asking features that won't make the game , 3d art for them If i understand your point (it's not very clear), people should not ask for engine improvements and just try to improve their artwork? There are some problems with this kind of thinking. 1) The engine development by Conitec (or a third party) and a given user's skill at art are not related. 2) Many people here can indeed create good artwork..are they not allowed to ask for shaders or effects to improve the output? 3) Your example game looks decidedly "out of date" to me, not just because the artwork is cartoony, but that it looks very flat...no normal mapping, etc. Also the models and textures are not remarkable anyway, so I don't see that this would make your point even if it WAS valid. 4) having better rendering effects will not prevent you making good artwork.. 5) Conitec's time is not somehow better spent teaching you how to draw and model... 6) Artwork ought to become less important, as procedural content becomes more common. Sphere Engine--the premier A6 graphics plugin.

Re: Work your 3D ART [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #162012 10/19/07 04:39 10/19/07 04:39
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,377 USofA fastlane69 Senior Expert
fastlane69 Senior Expert Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,377 USofA	Quote: Lot of people asking shaders , next gen , but they can't produce such 3D art even if they wanted You are one of those people so I don't get what you're point is in this thead. FUTUR-E-SCAPE: The Future Landscape of Education and Entertainment.

Re: Work your 3D ART [Re: TheExpert] #162013 10/22/07 10:07 10/22/07 10:07
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 567 Spain, Canary Islands Felixsg User
Felixsg User Joined: May 2003 Posts: 567 Spain, Canary Islands	Whell I'm spanish I not defend the creator of that game In the blog they say that game are finalist of art futura that if the proffessinal recognition to his art and for me, I played games in xbox360, Pc , wii ... and to many not have that quality of art. the textures are great Probably they added more effects over that base but for me that are a better work of many of other professional games sold in diferent plataform see the youtube video Last edited by Felixsg; 10/22/07 10:10.

Re: Work your 3D ART [Re: fastlane69] #162014 10/22/07 12:51 10/22/07 12:51
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,924 Finland Ambassador Serious User
Ambassador Serious User Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,924 Finland	Quote: Quote: Lot of people asking shaders , next gen , but they can't produce such 3D art even if they wanted You are one of those people so I don't get what you're point is in this thead. I think that TheExperts point is that artists should first focus on the basic graphics before going advanced with shaders and all.

Re: Work your 3D ART [Re: Ambassador] #162015 12/16/07 20:30 12/16/07 20:30
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 65 Germany T Tristan3D Junior Member
Tristan3D Junior Member T Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 65 Germany	I understand him as ambassador did. And I think he's somehow right. The "procedural" thingy will not prevent you from being an artist to produce a piece of art also. It's a good and common point TheExpert... well points out E.g. a poser model will never look as natural and original as a custom made 3d character would (don't want to start a poser discussion in here - I had my poser discussions with other 3D Artists... the outcome? Well, letz say: Poseruser hate me for my opinion about it ). So the original artwork; the original art of an artist will always be more appealing to the viewer than the "procedural" created "Art" could by any means. In my opinion, making games while you are not an artist, is kinda odd... because making games is an art of itself (a real art). So the given user has no other choice than become an artist somehow - or nothing will ever appeal in any way. Just my two cents

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