i was shocked by the graphical level of realism of cod4, especially the gunship mission. in case you dont know what a gunship is, thats a very big plane, flying very high with a lot of cannons against ground targets. here you see a real life video from the gunners view: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4_uAjZU7ED0

now this is ingame: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNYLZQ8l1eI

i dont think this kind of realism should be called a "game"... what i realised when playing the demo was that the graphic is very close to reality, the setting also and matches current war environments - although the developers did not say this is iraq or afghanistan everyone knows for shure it is...

only the gameplay itself is very easy you have to kill lots and lots of enemies and its very easy to do so. you also have to kill unarmed guys wich is new to a first person shooter and you are rewarded with "cool trashtalk". kids playing this get a wrong idea what war means, learn that the english speaking guys are always the good (no matter what they do) and the arabs are always bad guys.

take the gunship mission for example, you cant tell me that in real life everyone down in a village is a terrorist! but in this game you have to kill dozens of people where you dont know what they are. there might be a mother running away with here children and you just shoot at the crowd cause your commander tells you to do so. then you hear "good kill" or the commander laughing about the people on the ground running away.

i really think this "game" has gone a step too far. instead of showing what war means, it glorifies it.

what do you think about this? please discuss...

i think it looks very cool, but I would still not yet compare it to "realistic"

I personally was struck by the real video.
It is like hitting with a huge fly flap on insects.

I'm less concerned by the realism of the 'game', but by the fact, that it turns out to serve as a fun thingy.

It looks like the modern war of loosing any feeling for that you are destroying actually destroying lifes. War has turned out to a huge video game - but that has been said often during the Irak War.

Sorry, Ulf, I cannot discuss it since you are perfectly right with your post

Despite the fact that the graphics look very good I will not support such kind of games because of what you found out. And I agree absolutely.

i wont call that realistic, more hmm, well stupid killing of ppl in inversed black & white view. from the video i'd call it a real boring gameplay. dunno if theres more in it

Yes the gunship level is very strange. There are also some other parts of the game like being forced to shoot sleeping soldiers which are rather questionable. I really like liked this german video review which pretty much sums it up:
http://mtv.de/overdrive/index.php?name=highlights&id=68337
(just jump to part 3)

So in the end I think it's not about realistic graphics but about the scenario you play and if you think that it's ok to kill some moving stick figures while getting coll "Hell yeah - good job!" sound bites or killing helpless soldiers, well...

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i am unimpressed. some pretty pictures cover up a more than flawed game. and while i am not known for moral or ethnics, i cannot support a game like this. this game gives some stupid people a distorted view on reality. unfortunately, 90% of mankind are stupid.

in austria, we say that the clever ones step back. but if all the clever ones step back, the dumb ones will rule. and take this game for real...

bad deal...

I'll play CoD4, because there's no other game series that provides a battlefield atmosphere like the Call of Duty series. Surely, the gameplay itself is highly unrealistic, but the feeling of being in the middle of a war has never been achieved so greatly by any other game. And since I've been in the army, I just _love_ that feeling. There's nothing that pushes that much adrenaline through your body, and CoD4 will remind me of the thrilling training that I've had there

As long as I know that it's just a game (The army was just a game too - we surely had real rifles and all, but nobody is ever going to attack Switzerland), I've no problem with cruelty and war.

as if switzerland would be a threat to anyone. They are hardly dangerous...