Hi guys again

After spending more time on this site it seems to me that I will need to learn their new lite-C language to really get the game results I need. So, I have decided to stick with JAVA since it can be integrated with 3dGS but can you tell me how well it integrates with JAVA?

I've not been able to find any real information on how to integrate JAVA with GameStudio, has any one here tried it? How well does it work?

I need to find an engine that works well with JAVA could this be it? Thanks at all for any help or pointers...or a hello

Peace to you my freinds...

Implementing Java functionality into 3dgs needs you to
either be a good c++ plugin programmer, where the dll is
then linked to java, or you need to make a workaround,
using a "communication" bridge of some kind to the acknex engine.

This could be realized by writing a dll, that communicated via sockets
with the Java Virtual Machine.

Or you do a very primitive approach by sharing
data, written into files between an instance of
the acknex engine, and a JVM, running at the same time.

You could also writa a Java-based server software, and an
internet communication protocol to 3dgs. (ask the maker
of GSTNet, for the communication protocol he uses, with this you can
establish a net communication to 3dgs.)
Using Java as Serversoftware is the only senseful use of Java+acknex I can think of.

If you simply look for a 3d Engine, that runs in an Java
environment, look for something else than 3dgs.

Thank you Damocles. In the site here somewhere they say that:

"If you prefer to program in 'real' C++, Delphi or other languages, you can implement Gamestudio's engine into your own programs using the engine SDK. "

I guess your explanation offers the true intricacies of what is involved. I do not have the skills you spoke of to integrate JAVA. I feel sad. I don't want to learn lite-C since outside of this 3dGS I won't be able to use it, unless it is like C++ then it would be okay.

To get good results in 3dGS does it require you to code a lot of lite-C it seems that you need it to do the simplest things, is that correct? THANK YOU so very much for any and all feedback.

Peace.

Java is not a programming language, that creates executable programs by itself, but bytecode
that the Java Virtual Machine runs.
Thats one of the reasons why you cant just implement 3dgs into Java, or the other way around.

Lite-C is actually the Programming Language C with specific addons+functionalites.
So learning Lite-C, you can program C.
Most games a few yers ago where programed in C.

If you want to stick to Java, concentrate on something else.
Mobile Gaming is a good field for example.

Thank you again VERY MUCH Damocles, you really helped me to take the next step in programming I will learn lite-C. You are correct about JAVA and the inherent limitations due to the structure with the JVM. I have decided to break free of the thought of limiting myself to JAVA and will now expand to have a REAL language under my belt with lite-C.

You are a very smart person, not so much for your knowledgeable help, but your perceptiveness to know the deeper questions that people need the answers for even if they are unable to articulate it well. You are certainly a blessing to the forum!

Vielen Dank.

Peace.

no problem

You should see 3dgs as a "beginner" engine, that you can practise your skills in
Game-making.
Its very valuable to learn the basics of creating games (programming, Art, gamedesign)

its also great to create rapit prototypes of a gameidea.

showing 3dgs projects was twice my basis on getting a job in the game industry.

If you can create Project in 3dgs, you know how the basic flow
of work is in that area. programming in other languages is
then just the improvement of your skills for professional Projects.

You are my inspired Angel

Damocles, you said:

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where the dll is then linked to java

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I dont know, but, isn't that illegal? According to the manual:

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You're also not allowed to distribute a DLL that can be used as a 'wrapper' for the library by providing access to the interface structures or to library functions from outside the DLL.

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Not really sure at all, but that's why I ask

that would imply that Destops MySQL-DLL is illegal - Conitec hasnt complained AFAIK