i wanted to ask if there is an alternate gui for 3dgs. buttons and sliders are just not enough:\

soo is there?

i guess not, only if you use Other c++ code probably.

Your limited to the things panel supports when your using a PANEL* but you can also use API's look in the manual or you can manually create interface items. Believe it or not programming actually requires you to be creative commands are not always just laid out for you to create everything sometimes you have to make it yourself.

im all for that but making your own gui? seriously thats like reinventing the (not so easy to do) wheel
i want to work with the tools not make tools because what would be the point of engines in the first place...

I meant using what they give you to make what you need. For instance if you need a drop down menu you can simply make it using a panel a button and a few windows or so. The gui is limited if you look at it like you are but when you use the gui they give you to combine and tweak to your needs then it is really as flexible as you need it to be.