I have a player who can run around a room. In the room there are small physics objects on the floor. The player needs to push these out the way. Its all ok at the moment (except for the fact that ph_cylinder and ph_poly dont really work) but the physics objects dont move away properly. If they are effected by the player they usually fly of at great speeds (explode). How can I make the objects be displaced by the player reliably?

the ph_poly is only for static objects
if you put in your player model probably that is the problem
can you put a invicible physics sphere in the knee of
the model player

well sydan, there r a few ways... but lemme explain whats happening now, ur physics object do react to the non-physics object but not correctly, i think the only reason y they even move is because the physics engine is trying to remove all physics object from any model that they maybe colliding with.. am not a 100 percent sure if am right so far but some1 will correct me if i'm wrong

about solving the problem:
1-let the player passable to all physics objects and apply a force to the physics objects via c_scan for example
2-make the player a physics object, this can be done with the in-engine physics but as a few side effects

but overall, never use ph_poly or ph_cylinder for non-static elements

Hey. Thanks for the help so far. Ok, i won't attempt to use ph_poly but it is almost essential that I use ph_cylinder as the objects are small canisters that will look silly if they don't act how they look.

I have considered making the player passable to physics. If I were to use a c_scan, however, would this not lower the frame rate?

What side effects are there of making the player a physics object? I know movement will be quite different.

I did think of attaching a physics object to the player, but how effective would this be?

as long as its range isnt too high... my player is constantly c_scanning per frame, my explosions c_scan plus all enemies and weapons c_trace and if u play with it right, it wont affect ur overall framerate


the side effects with the physics player i'm using is minor unstability on terrains and the player slowly slides when on sloped surfaces...


i've heard of this, havent tried it, but theoretically, it sounds possible... u would have to make the player passable then set the phys object to his position each frame



dark out...

Hey Darkinferno! Thanks for the reply! I was wondering where you said:

How have you actually set the player as a physics object? How does that sort of code work? Do you control movement through physics functions? And are there any other restrictions?

its rather simple really... basically you just need some code to stabilize the entity so it doesnt fall over, this however causes the model to move when on sloped surfaces and there are some errors that happens a few times such as falling thru the floor but by setting the correct global physics variables, that will be non-existent, i thinks its because, its TRYING to fall over but the code is stopping it.. FRICTION NO LONGER works, i'm trying to solve this

anyways... run the following in a while loop after setting up ur physics entity the normal way

if(mouse_force.x > 0)
{
phent_enable(my, 0); //disables the entity temporarily
my.pan = camera.pan; //sets it to camera pan
my.tilt = 0; //stops it from tilting over
my.roll = 0; //ditto
phent_enable(my, 1); // reenables entity
}

if(key_w == 1 ) // move forward
{
phent_enable(my, 0); //disable
my.pan = camera.pan;//adjust pan
my.tilt = 0;
my.roll = 0;
phent_enable(my, 1);//enable
phent_addvellocal(my,vector(50,0,0),nullvector);
}

//the following runs every frame to stop the model from turning over, it is //recommended that this is last in the while loop

if (my.tilt!=0)
{
phent_enable(my, 0);
my.tilt = 0;
my.roll = 0;
}
if (my.roll!=0)
{
phent_enable(my, 0);
my.tilt = 0;
my.roll = 0;
}

that is the basic idea, am afraid thats all the code i can give tho, partners wont be particularly happy .. but hey, we all needed help once, i think ppl should think like that.. you can also see this in action by checking the video on my thread(in signature) all characters shown there are physics object..

once again, sorry for not using code tags, ant it'll continue until i see where the code tag icon is.. or maybe some1 could tell me

Thank you for the code! Very helpful. Now all I have to do is decide which method to use and get testing.

One final thing about ph_cylinder. Im running this:

phent_settype(me, ph_rigid, ph_box)
phent_mass(me, ... , ph_cylinder)

This works, I think but I'm not sure why. And why makew two physics settings only for static objects???