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"Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E #280276
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Hey guys,

Hey guys,

Wanted to share some renders of the excellent work our vehicle modeling "Experten" has done. smile These are mostly some ambient occlusion, aka "clay", renderings of the components, and shows the construction process. It's VERY close to being complete, and ready for UV mapping and skinning (which will be a pain, lol). This is going to be the German tank available in the free demo we hope to release soon. You can probably expect a Sherman 76 (or similar) next, as its worthy counterpart. I think everyone is going to be thoroughly impressed with the accuracy of the game's physics, which is one of the key elements of it. Well, enough talk, take a look:













Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Jaeger] #280277
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I hope to have the whole thing done, with more screenies and a movie soon. We're working hard to get a basic prototype of the game's design done soon, and complete the demo soon after. I'm going to be working hard to get some game trailers out in a timely fashion.

This is honestly one of the most excellent Tiger models, especially an interior model, that I've ever seen, if not THE best. The historical accuracy is incredible. Of course, we've had to make sacrifices along the way, due to performance concerns, and lack of surviving Tigers and info. I'm hoping to get to a tank museum sometime soon and get pics of other tanks.

Well, I hope you guys like it, and fire away with any relevant comments you might have! smile

Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Jaeger] #280296
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at my pc (duh)
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well, as u kno, we cant be surprised until we see this inengine but other than that.. lookin good

Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: darkinferno] #280312
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One thing I noticed is that the tracks seem to have more polies at the front and at the back, where they bend. But if you're going to animate it, it may need to have the same number of faces on all places...?
other than that, looking very good.


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Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Germanunkol] #280337
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Germanunkol : From memory, I think he was just going to animate the texture of the tracks.
Besides some up "up-and-down" vertex animation as the wheels go up and down.

Jaeger, I think it may be a bit HI-poly, but thats my opinion, and none of my projects
have gone above 20,000 polys on-screen at once YET.
I feel though that your modeller will cry when he sees how far it will need to be "cut-back"
for enemy tanks or LOD levels....

As for its look? Looking beautiful ATM, and thats naked! (without texture)


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Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: EvilSOB] #280343
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I like the design!! But the name... is weird.

Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Cowabanga] #280349
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hi,

I think it's a bit HiPoly too. Or is the tank the "Gameworld" and the player controls a small insect living in that ?

Maybe your modeler use the high-poly model for textring stuff?
Does he create a new lowpoly mesh or let compute down the mesh for ingame-use?

,gri


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Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Cowabanga] #280360
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"I like the design!! But the name... is weird."
-Cowabanga

Lol, well don't blame me, blame Germans!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_I

It's not a fantasy tank, lol. wink Speaking of weird names... hmmm... Lol, just kidding!

Yup, it's pretty high poly. But there are a few things to consider.

#1) Inside the complete tank, there will be NO time where you can see the entire interior. We did some render and camera tests with it already, and the polies you see at any given moment are actually very reasonable.

#2) Inside the tank, you can only see a tiny sliver of the outside world, IF you have a hatch or viewport open, and IF you're in a position that has one to begin with.

#3) Most of the player's time viewing the outside world will be through the gunsights, through the driver's slit, through the radio man's MG-34 scope, or by manning the commander's position and sitting with his head out of the hatch.

There are a couple games that have achieved similar levels of detail with no real performance hits as well. So I think it's going to be fine. Here, you're getting to see everything at once in "cut-away" views, but you won't be able to in game. smile

EDIT:

The outside view of the tank is actually an old version. I don't have renders of the new one as of yet. But the tracks are going to be sub-divided so we'll have some vertices to pull back and forth with the suspension. The animation will be achieved through texture shifting and shader.

Last edited by Jaeger; 07/22/09 11:17.
Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: Jaeger] #280410
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Ah ha!
You wanna creating a tank simulation!

I hope that the inside-view restrictions only work on "combat-mode".
Would be realistic but bad gameplay.

And for the Name of the Tiger. We germans used sencefull descriptions for our war-material but only in our language.
- Codename is "Tiger"
- offical name = Panzerkampfwagen Nr.6(because there was 5 before)
- Version "E" (changed equiqment as in other versions).

My favorit tank of this period is the PzKpfw IV , version "G" and "Hamerit surface". Its not so oversized like the Tigertank.

And the only reason to blame germany here is because we did this fuck'n war.



,gri


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Re: "Tiger - I" PzKpfw VI Ausf. E [Re: gri] #280422
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why is everyone saying its high poly, apparently we all live in 2001.

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