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Re: A8
[Re: sPlKe]
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Re: A8
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05/01/10 19:08
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2 questions, maybe someone besides JCL knows the answers ![laugh laugh](/ubb7/images/graemlins/default_dark/laugh.gif) 1. when is A8 aprox. going to come out? please dont say this year...be little more specific if you can... 2. is it going to be DX9 or maybe, just maybe it'll support DX10? or will it be OpengGL? maybe this was answered already in this thread but i couldnt make myself read all 16 pages hehe
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Re: A8
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05/01/10 19:29
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1. this summer. 2. dx9.(it MAY support opengl since they are considering mobile versions?)
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Re: A8
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05/01/10 19:29
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1: A8 comes out this summer, there is already a Beta 2: i don`t know...
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Re: A8
[Re: YellowAfterlife]
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05/01/10 20:34
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ok, thanks and one last question for tonight ![laugh laugh](/ubb7/images/graemlins/default_dark/laugh.gif) what other platforms will be supported?
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Re: A8
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05/01/10 20:46
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Quoting jcl - A mobile version is planned, but we have not yet made final decisions about the time frame and target platforms.
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Re: A8
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05/02/10 18:46
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The description of matBones (which is, for me, one of the features I've been looking forward to most) says "With only a few bones and no weights, the difference is less noticable." -- I was under the impression that the amount of vertices attached to animated bones was by far more of an issue than the number of bones. I think any decent gaming graphics card will be vastly more powerful regardless. Since gpu animation will run on the vertex shader, and the vertex shader is the most underutilized part of rendering, there is plenty of headroom for the gpu. I forgot to mention that animation can also be accomplished within a fixed function effect on hardware previous to vertex shaders. In this old article they compare a Radeon 9700 being 5 times faster than a pentium 4 at 3.0 ghz. That card did not have universal shaders, so there was less vertex processors than pixel processors, and it STILL got 5 times performance. Now we have dynamic allocation to vertex and pixel shaders, and shader performance expanded vastly since then.
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Re: A8
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05/03/10 00:05
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I did tests a while ago when I first requested the feature (it was a bit hacky, but it worked). I got far more than a 5 times performance boost -- there's far more information in the original thread, somewhere in the archives of the future forum probably. Differences in ratio would vary largely according to how up-to-date the user's CPU is compared to their GPU.
All I was saying is it doesn't appear to be the amount of bones that would be giving people performance issues, it's the amount of vertices. Although, that's compounded by bone-blending functions. Still -- unless an obscene amount of bones are being used, I would've thought the amount of bones would be one of the least important factors.
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