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Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? #56634
09/29/05 11:29
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Hi,

I have been studying the tutorials and it appears that you can create a game through Gamestudio that has a maximum of 9 levels, at least without writing any c-script.

I'd like to know if I can add more levels to my game through c-script. And is there a maximum number of levels that I should be aware of even through c-script?

In addition, what's your experience regarding the maximum suggested number of polygons per LEVEL.

Thanks,

CrazyCoder

Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: crazycoder] #56635
09/29/05 12:11
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i dont think there is an maximum...
why should?


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Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: Calined] #56636
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There is no maximum, 3dgs has no idea how many levels you make and it will load as many as you tell it under as many names as you tell it.


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Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: FoxHound] #56637
09/29/05 12:42
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The 9 level limit is only a limitation of the templates. Doug plans on increasing this or possibly recoding it in such a way that you type in a value and you'll have that many levels at your disposal. I think I recall this, anyway. It's been a long time.


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Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: Orange Brat] #56638
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Thanks guys! Yeah the tutorial didn't specify if that limitation was based only on the template system. But I just wanted to double check that in fact with c-script there are no limits to the number of levels.

Is there any known maximum limit of polygons after which Gamestudio won't perform well any longer? (For example, after 150,000 polygons per level). Not that I will never use that many in a single level, but just to plan ahead of time.

Also, the Map Compiler talks about Max. Level Size: 56000. What's that value?

Thanks again.

CrazyCoder

Last edited by crazycoder; 09/29/05 13:37.
Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: crazycoder] #56639
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Quote:

And regarding the polycount per level, in the Map Compiler it talks about Max. Level Size: 56000. I guess that's the default maximum number of polygons per level, correct?




That value refers the size of the level in quants meaning the distance. I'm guessing that is total distance and not radius. This can be increased up to 250,000 or 500,000(or maybe it's 100,000 and those larger values are experimental )...can't recall, but I wouldn't make something that large.


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Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: crazycoder] #56640
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Is there any known maximum limit of polygons after which Gamestudio won't perform well any longer? (For example, after 150,000 polygons per level). Not that I will never use that many in a single level, but just to plan ahead of time.




If you want to find the limit, there's always ways of doing it. An obvious limit is 32,767 (or 65,535) polygons for a single model. For a whole level, it can easily end up in the octuple digits count area for extremely large and complex levels (or for testing and experiments). To test it, create a 30,000-poly model and add it to WED. It'll take a very long time to load (which seems suspicious). Then, just duplicate it several times. 33 copies will get you near a million polygons. An obvious downside to high poly is that it'll take more time to calculate the positions of each vertex and draw each face. Vertices have 3 or 4 times the impact on the frame rate over faces (and I've tested this).

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Also, the Map Compiler talks about Max. Level Size: 56000. What's that value?




This is the boundary limit. That only applies to blocks though. You can increase it to 250,000 at the most (no block can be 125,000 quants from the origin though). If you need to go bigger, use models. You can place a model at 800,000 quants from the origin without any issues and possibly even as far out as 2,050,000 (unconfirmed and partly untested). I've had the camera out to 1.4 million quants and an entity moving with the camera at a slightly slower speed causing it to be roughly 1.3 million quants from the origin.


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Re: Maximum of 9 Levels with Gamestudio? [Re: ulillillia] #56641
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I've had the camera out to 1.4 million quants and an entity moving with the camera at a slightly slower speed causing it to be roughly 1.3 million quants from the origin.




Why?


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