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Re: I am Jesus Christ! It's true!
[Re: lostclimate]
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01/25/07 10:52
01/25/07 10:52
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Yeah, why do people say Jesus 'on the cross', instead of Jesus on the crusifix. He was crucified after all, not crossified. I think a crusifix is infact a t-shaped cross, although I'm not so sure what's derived from what when it comes to names and shapes/uses. ( a t-shape, not a T-shape ) Edit: a cross is an X, a crux is an t, we don't call it a 'Latin cross' for nothing.  Our word 'cross' actually comes from a mix between the Latin 'crux' and the Greek 'stau-ros'. (by the way, when it comes to wikipedia on this, they need a clean-up. ) Still, you're right about the claim of the shape of the 'cross' and about this wikipedia seems to state popular beliefs as facts, Cheers
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Re: I am Jesus Christ! It's true!
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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01/26/07 10:11
01/26/07 10:11
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Supposing Jeusus of Nazarth was a real historical figure and he was executed by the Roman governer of Jerusalem
Actually, historically speaking jesus was a person. Meaning he did infact exist, and there is proof. The Roman history books mention jesus being the king of the jews and there for they killed him. But then again mentioning this to someone who doesn't believe in god and their gonna say "well how do we know those history books are accurate? Maybe they lied in there also". I mean really all the proof we have about history is a bunch of books.
For example, if I asked who is credited with the discovery of America I bet we'd all know, and agree on Christopher Columbus (i say credited because long before Christopher many others had already done this). But what real proof do we have? Is it possible Christopher Columbus didn't even exist, maybe spain made him up after finding out by some other means of America just to take the credit. How hard could it be to lie to a bunch of uneducated peasants and to hire someone to write 50 books all slightly different (to make a bit more realistic) yes tell the same story?
Here is another example, lets say I did something impossible. Say one of you are blind, and I touch your eyes and heal you. Who would believe you? How could you prove it?
Today if we read in history of fire raining from the sky, or a ball of firing falling from the heavens, most of use will say BS that's an asteroid. When the land starts to shake it's not Hades or Zeus getting made, it's an earthquake. But what if an asteroid did hit and 99% of all human kind was killed, and only you and a handful of uneducated folks were left. How would you prove to them it was an asteroid and not god?
So what exactly is my point? If you were Jesus and you had to tell everyone "GOD IS COMING GOD IS COMING" or something like that and you... i don't know did something really amazing like morph in to a dinosaur or destroyed the moon by pointing at it, 2000 years from now if no one recorded it some how, and all you have is a book written by a witness, who would believe you even existed? I mean how many people carry a camera around at all times waiting to record JESUS 2.0 beaming down from the heaven's wearing the full angelic set from diablo II?
All I'm trying to say, just because something can't be proven doesn't mean it doesn't exist or that it didn't happen. For example, a second ago I farted. I have no proof, it's up to you to believe me , but regardless of what you believe I still did indeed fart .
Final note: At one point we believed we were the center of the universe. Up until Galileo proved us all wrong. I'm hoping one day we develop some form of technology to indeed prove there is a god (how ironic science proving god) and we can all quit worrying about it, and just be happy.
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