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Re: Paint.NET 3.0 almost ready
[Re: Orange Brat]
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01/28/07 02:29
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Dan Silverman
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My Lightwave cannot read Photoshop files. Even JPG files are wrong. TGA's have wrong colour palette.
Bah. What a bunch of ... well ...
In any case, I use Photoshop. The PSD files it saves out can be read easily by any application I have (including 3D Studio MAX). Did you ever consider that perhaps it is a Lightwave problem and not a Photoshop problem? After all, PSD IS the proprietary Photoshop file format.
JPGs also save perfectly fine. The only problem with Photoshop JPGs is that they are bloated and have to be "trimmed down" using software like Fireworks. But other than that they are JPGs that work as they are supposed to.
TGAs also function as they should. I am not sure what you are talking about with a color palette for TGA files because, by their nature, TGA files are 24 bit or 32 bit. 24 bit and 32 bit files do not have a palette so to speak.
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Re: Paint.NET 3.0 almost ready
[Re: laethyn]
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01/28/07 17:24
01/28/07 17:24
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PHeMoX
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Nothing wrong with it. But why have two tools when you can use one?
I use Corel Painter IX.5 combined with Photoshop 5. Plenty of reasons to have both installed too, since there are specific things the other application can't do.
If people can't afford this software, then go with TheGimp. It's good and plenty of tutorials available on the net too. If anyone has a small budget, then buy Painter IX.5 and use TheGimp for the PS related things. If you want access to all nice features, buy both Photoshop and Painter IX.5 and you'll be more than set to go. (btw. an old PS version will do ... it's not that CS3 is really amazingly much improved over PS7 or 8 ... or even PS5)
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So it is useless to discuss it at the end. I will not buy this software for 2000 $ when I can use GIMP for free.
Well, you can buy a Photoshop CS2 legally for 800€ already, any version below PS7 will come quite cheap actually if you look at the right places (and yes all legal too).
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When I save a file in PS and open it in Lightwave or in GIMP (so it is not a Lightwave only problem ) then the colors changed.
That's because TheGimp uses a CYMK color palette by default, in Photoshop you can choose which one to use but default is RGB-colors. It has little to do with the psd nor tga format.
Cheers
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Re: Paint.NET 3.0 almost ready
[Re: Machinery_Frank]
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01/28/07 18:19
01/28/07 18:19
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Excessus
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Sorry for being pendantic, but as stated, tga doesn't have a palette.. The reason for the problem is that the images saved with photoshop are in the RGB color space, while (apparently, according to Phemox) GIMP natively uses CMYK. Converting from one color space to another is done with a formula. I believe that converting from RGB to CMYK never results in a perfect match, but it might also just be a problem of the GIMP. Whatever be the case, this is a problem of the GIMP, since all mainstream file formats store RGB, and so does TGA (RGBA actually). Engines (including Gamestudio) work with RGB, the output of pixel shaders is RGB, etc.. Here is an interesting link: Color spaces
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Re: Paint.NET 3.0 almost ready
[Re: Excessus]
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01/28/07 18:30
01/28/07 18:30
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laethyn
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If the colors of your images are changing when you open them in OTHER applications, don't blame photoshop. Set your color management in the other applications correctly.
Read the manual, it's a good place to start learning ~ ulillillia
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