See? if you people spent as much time, and responded as quickly to HELP posts as you did responding to royaly #issed off people like ME newbies might get somewhere FAST! I mean I spend hours just PLAYING in 3Dsmax making weapons, and items, I could write a LONG as# PDF file showing the FUN and EASY way to make weapons for 3DGS, but I feel like everyone else lets me down when I need help so why bother?