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Possible to use JPG textures? #111941 02/14/07 19:32 02/14/07 19:32
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9 P Paragon OP Newbie
Paragon OP Newbie P Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	One downfall about 3D Gamestudio is its lack of ability to directly use JPEG textures... or is there a way to reduce the massive size of BMP or TGA files? Or, even better, is there a plugin that can allow the Gamestudio engine to use JPEG textures? Sincere Regards & Cheers, LCai

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111942 02/14/07 19:47 02/14/07 19:47
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Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111943 02/14/07 20:28 02/14/07 20:28
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904 H HeelX Senior Expert
HeelX Senior Expert H Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,904	Downfall? I dont think so. Did you ever heared about DDS? JPEGs are small on the HD, but they have to be converted into directX texture surfaces when you use them as textures or skins. The downfall of JPEGs are visible: you will use fairly the same amount of videomemory as bitmaps, but JPEGs contain artifacts. So the benefit of low HD space (do you have a 10MB HD?) take no benefit in videomemory!! JPEGs cannot inherit alpha masks DDS files are compressed files like JPEG (they contains as well compression artifacts), but they are compressed with directX texture compression, so that the consumpted space on the HD is equivalent to the consumpted video memory. DDS files are available under A6 and they run very fine. So I guess "downfall" is the wrong word in here. I dont miss it! Cheers Christian

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111944 02/14/07 23:38 02/14/07 23:38
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9 P Paragon OP Newbie
Paragon OP Newbie P Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	Brilliant, HeelX. Simply brilliant. So uh...this DDS format - photoshop can convert a JPG file to DDS, right?

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111945 02/15/07 05:25 02/15/07 05:25
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9 P Paragon OP Newbie
Paragon OP Newbie P Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 9	Sorry to be so nudgy, but how can I convert a picture file (i.e. jpg, bmp, tga) into a .dds file, and then import it into a Gamestudio .wad?

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111946 02/15/07 07:53 02/15/07 07:53
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Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: broozar] #111947 02/15/07 11:15 02/15/07 11:15
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old_bill Senior Expert Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,727	nVidia offers also some usefull tools: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/dds_utilities.html Success is walking from failure to failure with no loss of enthusiasm.

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: old_bill] #111948 02/15/07 12:20 02/15/07 12:20
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Wicht User W Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 980 Aue, Sachsen, Germany	My Test: MDL7-File + BMP-File ( 2000x2000 px ) = 10.3 MB MDL7-File + DDS-File ( 2000x2000 px ) = 1,9 MB Very impressive ...

Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Wicht] #111949 02/15/07 13:00 02/15/07 13:00
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Re: Possible to use JPG textures? [Re: Paragon] #111950 02/15/07 14:22 02/15/07 14:22
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,131 M Matt_Aufderheide Expert
Matt_Aufderheide Expert M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 4,131	Quote: So uh...this DDS format - photoshop can convert a JPG file to DDS, right? Dont use JPEG at all.. its a bad compression that usually makes texture look very bad if used at any stage. you ought to start with pure 24 bit images, then compress it to DDS when its done. You can get a plugin for photoshop that will open and save dds files. Sphere Engine--the premier A6 graphics plugin.

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