Yeah , I do have to agree with the time , it takes time to learn , theres no way around that , i've been here a couple of years myself and still havnt released anything commercial. I myself am investing some money for my new projecto I'm working on , having proffesional work in the game should definately help out. And the trubones pack should definately get me going with the whole characters having to move and stuff , LOL

Why_do_I_Die :

Man, you must not talking serious. Obviously you must be joking and only trying to make flame in a cup of water.

I know my projects arent "Need For Speed : Carbon" clones, and I never wished to make it.

But... compare my game with that Jaguar thing, is something close to ridiculous, just show how ignorant and RUDE someone can be when the notion of reality is put aside to give space to its own arrogance.

I fell yes offended, when you call anything, not only my work, but all the work around this forum, of garbage.


The only garbage I can see is your tendencious oppinion, that dont respect anything. You got my funny post and used it to attack my work, That maybe not Picasso´s art, but is far better then my old works in a sinclair, making Space Invaders clones using only Z80 assembly.

To you cleary understand, I dont make a Kart ( Kart not Cart ... ) game because I love anything , BUT, Because I was PAID ( yes, man, PAID in US DOLLARS ) to do it. I just hate indoor kart, I raced professionally 2 stroke karts in Brazilian championships about 6 years, and, when talking about kart racing, I know what i´m talking about.

My real project is Formula Cars, that also isnt a top notch racing game, but, is how I spend my happy spare time.

I doint know if you noticed, but in any moment in my post I screamed against ninja, didnt say he has a bad idea, and more, despite of any "professional" talking from you or anyone else, I think if he really want, he can do it. Even who wrote the biggest game ever ( that I really dont know which one is ) one day didnt knew even how to use a mouse.

AND, being you a master in talk about other people projects, I would love to see anything you made that can be so fantastic to proof us all our works are GARBAGE. ( please , no Worlocks or bubles... )

And to finish, I´m sure I was not trying to act as a DEV GURU, as you said, even because I´m very new to 3DGS, AS YOU ARE, and i´m still learning the basics.

If you dont like my "humour" ( deleted btw ) you can say this in a polite way, and PROOF to us that you are yes who makes the difference.

Because acting and screaming against other people work just show you as someone to be ignored. Thats why you die, and keep dying every day.

Yes Andvari , this thread is getting old , maybe I shouldnt have posted and let you all just bash away at ninja , lol . Your a good modeller andvari , but that wasnt my point , to be more honest i'd say the actual percentage is around 5% , as there has been some games made with gamestudio and there IS some talented people , but most here arent, hense using gamestudio. I'm also aware of Drew who does levels for AAA games , so I know there's some people here with some experience , but most are just people trying to make games from their home in their spare time . as am I , which is why I replied , even though I dont doubt carloos has learned a lot about making games through working with gamestudio , as I have myself , he just sounded extremely arrogant , like he was a member of Epic games or something , I myself have learned thouroughly how a game is made and how much hard work it is to make one , and the money that is needed , but that doesnt give me any industry experience , just makes me more knowledgeable of how things work. I think pointing a person in the right direction rather than maknig fun of them or riculing them is a better way to go about it. Though again I'm not questioning wether his idea is hard to implement or not , we all know it's almost impossible to make a successful MMORPG from home with no funding , but I dont see why someone with the dream of making one should be pissed on by some forum member and ridiculed by the rest , I mean , he's a fellow gamestudio user , why bash him so badly ?

Interesting.

How can you be so polite talking with more experienced users then you are when talking with us "noobies" ? What are you afraid of ?

First you say that I make hideous "games", then you say that you dont doubt I learned a lot about game making ?

By myself, I yhink here we have tons of talented people. The point is, talented people who, in its major part, have lives to live, bills to pay, and so on, and dont get this gamestudio thing as theyr way of living ( altought everybody here would love it ). So what we can see in the forums are sometimes almost heroes, that make plans, models, 2d art, code, levels and some even launch theyr games and make some money. Too much tasks to be acomplished for lonely developers, but some of them do it.

We also have tons of people who never show nothing, or almost nothing, or lost all theyr work in "hard disk crashes", but think they know enough to judge other people work and behaviour, and dont miss a second in starting flaming at someone overreacting with anything.

I think you should apologise for your "hideous" opinion, as I do now for my joke with ninja, ( hey Ninja , sorry ok ? - was not trying to riducularize you ), or, better, you should go to the showcase forums and put your opinion there, in plain words, to people know what you really think about theyr work, and tell them they should stop working right now with game making, because they arent Epic or Blizzard genius.

I dont want to get this any longer, but you MUST understand that, what is a fantastic game for you, maybe is just garbage for someone else, and vice-versa. ( like some childish puzzle games, but this is another story...) ... but they will not throw this in your face.

To finish, I apologise again if my joke offended someone.

But I really think your post offend almost all users in this forum.

I´ve said it once, and I´ll say it again:

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and dont get this gamestudio thing as theyr way of living

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I do. And atm I make my live on gamestudio. You don´t have to make games. You can go with VR, Simulations and so on.
To make money with games or any applications you don´t need the Unreal Engine or VC++...
You can ask Dan Silverman, George Pirvu and a lot of other users. You can live on gamestudio. Period.

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( altought everybody here would love it )

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Well - then just do it.

What I was trying to say, is that the major part doesnt live on Gamestudio.

I know that are some users that does. And I´m glad for it.

I have to agree with stansmedia, i think he could do it after a few years of expirience and a little success, now Im not saying go for it or anything but you dont have to insult him.. (the face pissing comment) and its rude ot argue in his post, some people gave him good advice, and thats what he needs, not flamers, or people who like to make fun of people for there dreams.