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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: PHeMoX] #112313
02/19/07 18:17
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It's running on a 7600 GS, but it was 60 on my 5200 FX, too. It's stuck at 60, though because of the XP bug, however it drops if you try to choke it.

The main issue plaguing me right now is getting the model animation right. The first test from the person that will probably be rigging for me were promising but early and full of interesting mesh deformities. I'll receive a better version tomorrow, so I hope in the end it works out.

Getting this part of it right pretty much is what this game's fate hinges on. If it ends up not being right, then I'm packing it up and moving this to an all 2D game using another engine.

I don't want to do that given the amount of years I've put into this version, but I'll know if I'm licked if the time comes. That would be ashame, too given I've developed a pretty unique looking style, and I really really like the way this model looks in the screenshot above. I have self-shadowing turned on which gives me that nice shadow across the face. Too bad it looks like complete garbage on the rest of the body when in motion thanks to mosquito noise.


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Orange Brat] #112314
02/19/07 20:06
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Did I tell you already how much I like your project? I like that its more of a "serious" kind of game, and its all adventury (A word that I just invented).

Making it in black and white feels fresh and gives the whole game that "Film noir"-theme (and it does look pretty much like you're after that kind of style?). If you give the game a strong story, then this is going to be a winner, can't wait to see the character you have there develop

I'm doing a similar project right now, so I know that it's full of interesting problems here and there - Inventory (although thats not so hard if you manage to do it right ), dialogs, etc. Let me know if I can provide a little help

It reminds me a little of Grim Fandango and Hotel Dusk, which is a great thing Keep it up, can't wait to see more progress

I hope you find someone to animate the model, as it would be a shame to see this project end (... or end up on another engine, although thats still better than to never see this project). Did you already make tests with the facial animation? (Because, believe it or not, in my project I am also seperating face and model - I once wrote code for a similar behaviour as in Wind Waker, which I could simply use then. I think I am talking too much about my project )

(I love the selfshadowing )


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Error014] #112315
02/19/07 20:22
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I haven't done any of the face stuff, yet but it shouldn't be too hard given I know what I want.

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I hope you find someone to animate the model,




I actually have had two people inquire about the rigging. I've had dealing with one of them before and I know they can animate well. I've given them the option of hand animating if they would prefer to do this instead of dealing with mocap. I knew this would be the make or break feature and I probably wish now I'd done it long ago.

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If you give the game a strong story, then this is going to be a winner,




I'd like to think I have a strong story or at least something that has never been done in a game before. Most game plots are the same or you can find examples somewhere of it being done before or they're just flat out derivative. Mine is a bit different (more or less), and that's he beauty of the adventure genre. It's also why it ultimately doesn't matter whether it ends up a realtime 3D game or a 2D one. The story is what matters, and it's the same no matter what it looks like.

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Let me know if I can provide a little help




I'll keep you in mind. You've helped me quite a bit already on several occasions. Every little bit helps.

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I have this habit, too. Can't you tell?

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Hotel Dusk




I'm almost contemplating buying a Nintendo DS to play this. I love the unique animation style. It's limited and raw. Might get the Phoenix Wright games, too.


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Orange Brat] #112316
02/19/07 20:39
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The environment with the character in it, this looks so marvelous!

Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Pappenheimer] #112317
02/19/07 20:41
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hehe this whole black/white stuff looks cool. can't wait to see a demo or a trailer or somethin


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: achaziel] #112318
02/19/07 21:23
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Great work! the character looks amazing on that environment, love the cartoony B/W look


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Andvari] #112319
02/20/07 17:39
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nice OB, it has a great style to it, i miss the adventure genre, i'd definitely play it because 1. it's an adventure game, 2. it looks like it will be great


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: mpdeveloper_B] #112320
02/21/07 13:36
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Thanks for the comments, and a special thanks to Andvari for helping out with rigging and animation duties. I'm lucky to have these two talented individuals work on the characters, and IMHO, you're the two best modelers around here.


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Orange Brat] #112321
02/21/07 14:15
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lol i first read "supernintendo" on the sign @_@


Nice shots though, i love the style and a good adventure with 3dgs would be awesome.


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Re: Disenfranchised player model(s) and beyond... [Re: Captain_Kiyaku] #112322
02/25/07 01:16
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You're not the only one who read that at first. Actually your post made me look a second time... *lol* Nice work OrangeBrat. I'd love to see that in motion.


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