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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: Germanunkol] #113276
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Well, if what was stated by Inestical, you are moving your entities in 4 dimensions

1. Width
2. Height
3. Depth
4. Time - it takes time for those entities to move

I am not sure if this is true, this is totally confusing....

Is colour, or "look" of an object really another dimension? Isn't a colour affected and controlled by light? So light is determining colour, and light in 3 dimensions isn't it? I'm confusing myself here lol

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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: Germanunkol] #113277
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@ Germanunkol:
wikipedia weiß alles:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/4D


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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: Puppeteer] #113278
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_dimension

Five dimensions?

now we're speaking.

EDIT: wikipedia governs up to eight dimensional polyzetton
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8-polytope



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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: Inestical] #113279
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Five dimensions?






Up to eleven according to the last edition of the theory of the strings

Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: AlbertoT] #113280
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Lol, yeah, 7 of which are sqeezed together, just imagine that! (I'm having trouble with 5 dimensions, let alone 7 dimensions sqeezed, sqeezed how and in which dimensional directions?)

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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: PHeMoX] #113281
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These additional dimensions are mathematical nessecities to explain
certain behaviours.
I dont think that even the guys that brought this up can "imagine" them.
But it is not their purpose to be imaginable.

In then end, these are all theories...

Is time a dimension at all?
Because all other dimentsionas can be accessed in both directions.
Time is just accessable in one direction...

Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: Damocles] #113282
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now, tkae this cube and hold it on one corner and pull it to any direction

what happens? well, it will either not move at all (end of dimensions) it will grow (expanding universe) or it will create cube in cube in cube in cube (multiverse).





That's time. A series of cubes. It is said (and i totally believe that), that humans are multidimensional beings(naturally) but with a 3-dimensional perception.

This means that although we are fully aware of space, (first three dimensions, as you nicely described them), we only get to see a slice of the fourth dimension, which is why it's so comfusing for us to put it in words. A multi-dimensional aware being would be able to see time as a series of "cubes"(a cube being, our entire universe, standing still like we freeze-framed it). a series of these cubes, and you get time, just like we use frames to have animation.

What made me get a good perspective over this, was some guy writting about the flatland.. or something like that. He said that in this imaginary flatworld, everything is 2d, like Mr Square and Ms Circle, living on a side of paper if you will. When Mss Sphere, which is 3d, decides to travel right through that paper, Mr Square won't see the whole thing. He'll first see a small circle, gradually getting bigger, and then getting smaller again, until the sphere has gone through the other way. Mr square is still a multi-dimensional being, but he's only aware of 2 dimensions.

That's how we get to perceive time. One slice at a time.



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I am confused...how can people "think" there are 7 dimensions if we only know of a possible of four? How can people imagine other dimensions if they cannot be explained? Just asking, I am confused...




It's very easy, you just use Spike's method, and stretch the previous dimension in a line, and see what you end up with. The tricky part is trying to comprehend what this other dimension would be like, if we were actually aware of it.

Stretching time dimension would give multiple lines of series of cubes. This is what spike must mean by multiuniverse. To me, it looks like it's a plane(the fifth dimension) where all possibilities exist. This means that, if in our series of cubes, you decided to have pizza for dinner, there exists another universe where you're having pasta. The possibilities are infinite, but aren't all other dimensions infinite as well(how big is the universe really?)

I'm calling this 5th dimension, the Astral Plane (and i'm not the only one). I believe it's real, and that it's possible to be consiously aware of it, by trying Astral Projection. I have my own experiences to share about this, but i'm getting out of the topic. A google search on "Astral" would return zillions of results on this..


I haven't done any research on creationism, so i've no comments about the rest of your observations..

Aris


EDIT: I don't know why i'm sounding so [censored] formal in this post.. I'm gonna fix this by swearing a bit over here.. [censored] [censored] balls [censored] [censored]! there...

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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: LarryLaffer] #113283
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http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Flatland/Section_1 <- flatland -- a great read to help think about 4D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatland <- info on flatland.

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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: JibbSmart] #113284
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Quote:

Is time a dimension at all?
Because all other dimentsionas can be accessed in both directions.
Time is just accessable in one direction...




The time dimension is actually the dimension which is required for any movement to happen. Without it there would be no difference between speeds, irrelevant of in which directional dimension this happens. I think time is a real dimension indeed, just not a directional one,

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Re: The Universe Multiverse... [Re: PHeMoX] #113285
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as time being nondirectional, it should be first dimension

time, width, height, depth.

time is required to morph or do anything.


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