quite interesting, thanks frank for testing.
do you own milkshape? i'd be interested if loading the map file in milkshape works. if so, converting to a gs-format should be possible, at least it's my first thought that i had while reading your review.

So Frank you gonna push me to collect Torque, i don't want to program ,
but if it has the tools to entire level editying workflow fast and efficient ...

yeah nowadays tools are very important , lot of us are not independant studios with their armada of tool programmer.
and when you can have a complete terrain editor, interior , complete fast quality lightmapping for interior and object on terrain ...
i htink you have just to express yourself and avoid loosing time on conversions
and other time loosing things.


And their license is ok for me i will never sell a game i think
so their fees won't risk to apply to me.

And 3DGS fans , be rassured 3DGS still remain one of my favourites indeed

no demo of their tool , just to play with ?

TheExpert:
Constructor is free. You only have to give them your email address and then you can download it.

Broozar:
Interesting idea. I did not know that milkshape can load and save .map files.

All:
I forgot to mention that Constructor allows to load every arbritary mesh (static meshes as models) into the scene and that those static meshes cast wonderful static soft shadows.

I will show some examples later on.

By the way: Rotating and scaling is so fast in Constructor. All of you who know the in-game editor of Torque already know that you only have to press STRG or ALT to change into these modi. No clicking at buttons necessary. You work with the speed of your thoughts.
You can even rotate in 15 degree steps if you want to make well aligned rotations. Then you have to press Shift wile performing the rotate action.

Nice frank

the problem of BSP based levels is that perhaps not all tools , make lot of unecessar vertexs, i don't know if they have a "join vertex" function ?
i m' not expert in nothing and even less in BSP system

Here are the images of my test level to check static meshes plus soft shadows:

The first image shows you the level without any lighting, flat and ugly:


And here the same scene with one point light creating shadow-maps for blocks and static model-meshes:



This makes quite a difference.

Torque games can be quite beautiful now. The crazy thing about this is: The shader-demo of Torque claims that the shaders work even on top of light-mapped geometry. Imagine this, how beautiful a level can be.

Looking good.
Downloaded it myself but havn't had time to look at it properly so thanks for the reports.

Bought Torque not long after buying GS and yeah, love the in game editor but hated the lack of a consistant help source. Had to spend a week looking for articles and then couldnt apply myself to the scripting.

But, 'beauty' may encourage me to reassess this engine.

When I was messing with torque, my [static] models were casting shadows on geometry. Not sure why yours aren't...

Happy Birthday xXxGuitar511 (man, what a long name!)

Thanks Nems [what a short name ]!

Hopefully we can find a good workflow for converting constructor to 3DGS. [A Free one...]