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Re: Made or Born?
[Re: AlbertoT]
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04/07/07 00:27
04/07/07 00:27
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In the first stages of the embrion development some bones of the human head can not be distinguished from the ones of a reptile Also the inner part of the human brain is almost the same as the one of a snake This is a further prove in favour of evolutionism even though you can not exclude in principle that God got started from a common model
At a very early stage we also look like a 'fish' hehehe. It's quite funny, but it's all evidence indeed.
You are right, we can't exclude God from the period before evolution, however we cán exclude God from 'interfering' somewhere around the middle of evolution, if that's what you suggest with 'a common model'. If you've simply meant a common model as in 'the first pre-cell almost 'life' which evolved like it did', then yes perhaps God could be responsible for that...
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The theory is that God did not create the world without form and void it became that way, and there are many different Hebrew words which, when translated will point to this. One such word is "was"(above) which can be translated "became"
It's pretty cool you agree with that translation, it's true those are the proper meanings indeed ('became') or at least I've read the same from an entire different source, so I suppose it's right. However doesn't this pose another question? Namely the question 'what díd God create then?' If the earth 'became' through all sorts of effects, physical laws that just 'are' and what more, then what's the thing God has been responsible for? These laws?
In a way, I wonder if it's anything at all, perhaps "God" is simply the somewhat philosophical 'breakpoint' to make clear that there has been time and 'development' before earth ever 'came into existence', before nature existed, before anything? If time and space have been there forever (something I do believe, since going from 'no time' (everything freezed) to 'time' sounds a bit strange to me, although not impossible), if time and space have been there forever, whether collapsed, spread out or twisted doesn't matter, you could go on and on about it, but and one point you'd have to stop and say, before this 'we don't know' ór 'make things up' in a more poetic way and say 'God did it'. Perhaps the concept of this evolved because it gave meaning to the unknown and more and more it started getting different additional meanings. Like, pray and you will get help or support in return, or perhaps pure the basic 'hope' it can give and so on and so forth. The 'concept of religion' is very very old and humans have been able to imagine a LOT and stories always evolve. No-one tells each story twice exactly the same, so 'changes' have always been inevitable,
Cheers
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