Great new code Raiden, works perfectly. one last question. where do i get the parameters for x,y and tilts,etc? i know the vertex #, i got that from med. but i tried to adjust it and the attached item ended on my models butt, lol. i am simulating that it is two bracelets, one shoots lasers, and the other is the force shield, so when my character picks them, up i wanted each of them to attach to both of my models wrists.