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Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: TheExpert] #133171 06/05/07 20:25 06/05/07 20:25
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area Doug Senior Expert
Doug Senior Expert Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area	The short answer: for minimum risk, only buy a development environment that will do everything you need right now. Never buy software on promises and "upcoming features". Now the real trick is know what features your upcoming game will need (this is where design is key) and what features an development environment actually has. Conitec's Free Resources: User Magazine \|\| Docs and Tutorials \|\| WIKI

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133172 06/06/07 00:22 06/06/07 00:22
Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490 O Orange Brat Senior Expert
Orange Brat Senior Expert O Joined: Aug 2000 Posts: 7,490	Quote: Well Orange Brat , that's the difference from some good games here and here and some bigger , more commercial games made with a real team : some strong programmers, 3D artists. Maybe, but I don't consider the games or teams that use 3DGS to be "un-real." They're every bit as real and determined as the developers using something like Unreal3. My User Contributions master list - my initial post links are down but scroll down page to find list to active links

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133173 06/06/07 01:46 06/06/07 01:46
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,172 Portugal - Brazil XNASorcerer OP Expert
XNASorcerer OP Expert Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,172 Portugal - Brazil	Quote: The short answer: for minimum risk, only buy a development environment that will do everything you need right now. Never buy software on promises and "upcoming features". Now the real trick is know what features your upcoming game will need (this is where design is key) and what features an development environment actually has. The problem is that when you buy a development environment that are suppost to do something (it already have that features that you need implemented), but then it doesn't do it. Those features doesn't work right! http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=jBQhxYNxI8U http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=2LBz31EpBNA http://br.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0MpSxyH-34 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd4R1JVXNAc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvSG4_nOB88

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: XNASorcerer] #133174 06/06/07 16:44 06/06/07 16:44
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area Doug Senior Expert
Doug Senior Expert Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area	Quote: The problem is that when you buy a development environment that are suppost to do something (it already have that features that you need implemented), but then it doesn't do it. Those features doesn't work right! Correct. That is where testing is key. If you can't get a key feature you need to work in the demo (or they don't have a demo), then you should probably look else ware. Conitec's Free Resources: User Magazine \|\| Docs and Tutorials \|\| WIKI

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133175 06/06/07 18:43 06/06/07 18:43
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,264 Wellington Nems .
Nems . Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,264 Wellington	Yep, fully agree as that seems to be the only way I can ever find what I'm looking for, Demo, test, reject or keep - no demo, no interest for me. ..and then again..its really good if the business stays in business too (was really dissapointed when GameBench sunk without a trace). Having said all that, what the heck is wrong with GStudio, the first to offer a complete dev environment (now someone else is claiming the honour of that spiel)and more than capable of delivering what we are after...if only we knew how to leverage it to our own advantage (youknow..scripting, programming scripting,,,did I say scripting again?) After 5 years of looking, nothing yet has come even close to GStudio for an average user bloke like me.

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133176 06/06/07 19:16 06/06/07 19:16
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 91 G Ghost Junior Member
Ghost Junior Member G Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 91	Hi Doug, I totally agree with you about being able to test things before you buy, accordingly I'm currently wondering how I can test the new skeletal animation features in A7 i.e. is there a demo with these features enabled available?

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Ghost] #133177 06/07/07 21:04 06/07/07 21:04
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area Doug Senior Expert
Doug Senior Expert Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area	No demo that I know of. Which skeletal animation features are you talking about? Are they not included in the trial edition? Conitec's Free Resources: User Magazine \|\| Docs and Tutorials \|\| WIKI

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133178 06/07/07 21:55 06/07/07 21:55
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Ghost Junior Member G Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 91	I was refering to FBX animation import and playback with 4 bones per vertex weighting. As far as I can see this has become a Pro only feature so would not be in the normal trial version, unless you can tell me otherwise?

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Ghost] #133179 06/09/07 01:34 06/09/07 01:34
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area Doug Senior Expert
Doug Senior Expert Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 8,973 Bay Area	You're right. Unless JCL surprises me, that will not be in the trial version. Conitec's Free Resources: User Magazine \|\| Docs and Tutorials \|\| WIKI

Re: Do you remember Beyond Virtual (BV)? [Re: Doug] #133180 06/09/07 02:32 06/09/07 02:32
Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,551 Netherlands D3D Serious User
D3D Serious User Joined: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,551 Netherlands	4 bones per vertex weighting. Has become a Pro only feature? On the beta page it says: Quote: V6.60.2b MEDB can now import FBX files with an arbitrary number of bones per vertex. Multiple bones animation can only be imported, but not edited in MED. The number of bones per vertex is visible under Model Properties. The engine now supports up to 4 bones per vertex. The number of bones per vertex can be restricted by setting the max_bones variable. The trial version on the download page is 6.40 so you can't try these new features. Don't think it will become a Pro only feature? Hope not!

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