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Re: Scientists claim to have broken speed of light
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09/07/07 17:59
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AlbertoT
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since you aren't aware of where it really is then in practice it's still just at one place
Nope , there is subtle difference
Suppose that you have a bouncing ball inside a box
You take a snap at some time intervals : t1,t2,t3.....tn
You plot the positions of the ball : p1,p2,p3....pn and you connect the points
You get a "path"
Consequently you can predict the position of the ball
Suppose you have an electron , inside a box
You dont get any "path" rather a sort of probability distribution
In other words
Suppose that at time tn the ball is in Pn
You repeat the measuring a fraction of time later : tn + dt
No real object can exceed the speed of light, consequently at time tn + dt the ball must be inside a sphere with center in Pn and radius <= c*dt
You measure and you find the ball inside the sphere
Again , repeat the test with an electron
You can find the electron even outside the sphere
What conclusion can be drawn ?
Either the electron can travel at a speed higher than the speed of light or :
If you dont "see" the electron , the electron is a wave.
It is everywhere inside the box
If you try to spot the electron, you make it turn( collapse) into a small ball
It seems absurd but nobody has still found a better explanation
Last edited by AlbertoT; 09/07/07 18:11.
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Re: Scientists claim to have broken speed of light
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09/07/07 18:44
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AlbertoT
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Yes, "Schrodinger's Cat" even though this paradox has been greatly exagerated as you said yourself :
"I would have been happier if they had stuck to real science... that's weird enouh without having to invoke spirits! "
Actually a cat remains a cat , it is not everywhere, the collapse of the wave form being implicit in the "cat" itself same as in any other "real" object
Even some real objects have a sort of "double face "
There are some materials which normaly are in a fluid and non magnetic state
but if you touch them they turn in a solid and magnetic state
The magnetism must be already "hidden" somewhere
The real mistery is the " non locality " rather than the double state wave \ particle
If you splits the wave into two parts they keep behaving same as they were one only wave
Last edited by AlbertoT; 09/07/07 18:57.
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Re: Scientists claim to have broken speed of light
[Re: fastlane69]
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09/30/07 17:59
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Someone let me know when they have a practical application for this faster than light ability.
I'm ICEman, and I approved this message.
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