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Vote Ron Paul in '08 #155794
09/20/07 21:30
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Someone who is actually looking for a better America. Forget the George Bush who made terms of empty promises, this guy has stuck with his word from day 1. As a congressmen of Texas, he has never voted for the war in Iraq amongst many things.

At least do one thing for me, and Conitec over there in California jk, but at least listen to what the man is about!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

www.RONPAUL2008.COM


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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: ISG] #155795
09/20/07 22:04
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I think I like him better than Clinton actually, and it seems he's in first place right? 27% in some of those debates or what does it look like now?

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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: PHeMoX] #155796
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He seems very wise, the one issue I have with him is that some things need to be done by the government, being raised in foster care, I see that importance. Currently in our state the goverment side of fostercare is being phased out into private agencies. The issue with that is that private agencies tend to pay near minimum wage for a job that requires lots of school, and a very stressful job. This makes the human aspect screw the children in the system over. Although it does seem like he is willing to give a little.

One of the very few republicans I would give a second thought.

Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: lostclimate] #155797
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Although I reside in the Netherlands i'm pro Ron Paul. Hope he doesn't get killed like JFK, because he wants to do some things certain ppl in the shadow government will not like very much. Anyways he does remind me of some actor (the bad/evil guy), can't recall what movie it was though


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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: D3D] #155798
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I don't know exactly where Ron Paul stands in the polls, but I know he isn't as widely broadcasted like some of the others. Spread the word. Fox News is republican based and since Ron Paul is abnormal from the other Republicans, Fox (with other larger networks) don't seem to want to show his stuff as much.

He's a strong candidate.


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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: ISG] #155799
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Ron Paul is the Kucinich of the Republican Party, i.e. a maverick in his own ranks who has a 0% chance of winning the election. The good thing is that he is an old school Republican / Libertarian promising minimal government involvement. The bad thing is he's still a Republican, i.e. stands against good social policy and promotes US Christian ideals.

Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: lostclimate] #155800
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Curious how the new president candidates are thinking about the crippled constitution. Government trying to take the peoples guns away and now this North American Union (USA/Canada/Mexico), it sound crazy and never thought the people would allow something like that behind their backs.

Then again in my country The Netherlands our government represent themself and not the people. So much for democracy. Like the European Union and the burning of our constitution which they have replaced now and we are not going to get a second referendum because the previous answer was NO.

From what I read on the internet it looks like Bush has been bussy with burning the American constitution too. And constantly tries to put fear in the hearts of Americans with his T-E-R-R-O-R fantasy, in order to make them trade security for their freedom. From what i'd seen in the debates only Ron Paul can save America.

Guess in the end it will be Cheney? America has been fighting in wars since WWII more than any other country in the world. It has become a commercial endeavour by the military industrial complex and I think Cheney like to continue this path because then we get world peace by killing anyone that has another opinion or way of living?


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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: D3D] #155801
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Ron Paul has some bad ideas.

he thinks any International organizations are "threats to our independence". Its clear that the US and rest of the world need to have more international cooperation, not less.

He thinks abortion should be restricted...this is obviously contrary to his supposed support of personal liberties..what could be more personal? He is the worst kind of hypocrite.

He opposes the power of the FDA and other government groups that are set up to protect the public health..why?


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Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #155802
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And he wants to dissolve the department of education.. madness.

Re: Vote Ron Paul in '08 [Re: JetpackMonkey] #155803
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And he wants to dissolve the department of education.. madness.




What?! Where did you ever grab this idea from? He wants to redirect the money used in the war for education.

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He opposes the power of the FDA and other government groups that are set up to protect the public health..why?




Can you point your sources out please


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