I'm not gonna comment any of the models which isn't the point of this thread any way It's about that amazing plugin, which I can't thank Ventilator enough for !! It may be static related but I guess great looking shadows can make a project look way more plausible
Nice work David, good of you to remind us of the power which is involved behind this tool

Cheers

Frazzle

that's got nothing to do with what i said. i disagreed with calling an intentionally un-lit and un-shaded scene "our 3dgs state of technology". shaders have nothing to do with this thread, but neither does the discussion on the state of 3dgs.

i also argued the point that the purpose of this thread is showcasing ventilator's plugin used with david lancaster's art.

aside from that i'm in full agreement with broozar.

julz

Would it be fair to say that 3DGS is a cheap engine (price wise) and with all cheap products come their faults or shortcomings? You get what you pay for. And perhaps in order for conitec to help support indie developers they have a priority to keep the price of the product at the range it's in, start adding all these features etc that it seems everyone either expects or wants, then the price goes up and people complain about the expense.

I agree with most of your statements. David is also right. The engine is cheap. But Toast brought it to a good point. In this case we dont need expensive new tools. We just need the access to another uv-set. You can surely do it with Lite-C and DirectX. But we only need to attach a second UV-set in MED with texture.

This is not a task to let engine price explode It is a change int the MDL format. I once asked for that in the future forum but got ignored.

If I not dream I see a post of JCL
and gamestudio A7 goes to support 4 uv
and already in beta testing

you try to search

The ventilator plug ins is a great tool and probably all other engines except a minority using external tools for make the lightmappers (3d studio by sample)

and the quality and speed of the pre-calculated lights are much better (raytracing lights prerender with 3d tools and anytimes winth plug ins tvray, carrara 6, vue 6 all can be baked) that shadowmaps pixelshaders

no, jcl has no plans to add more uv-sets to the model format. it would make the model format more complicated and i think it's jcl opinion that light mapping doesn't make sense for models since they are more meant for moving them around per script and being animated. i think light maps for models can make sense even once a7 level geometry is better supported (map compiler, fbx import,...). for example because models can have lod.

gamestudio's vertex format kind of supports 4 uv-sets. there are 3 uv-sets. one actually is meant for the tangent but it consists of 4 floats which also could store 2 uv-pairs if you don't need the tangent.

Wicked, amazing, BEAUTIFUL!