Doof_Guy: ok im glad you mentioned that thanks, also Beyond Games is looking for modelers so ide be more than happy to look at some of your work and hopefully put you down for the team. send some work to my email address at cdtjones69@hotmail.com as i use that 24/7 and hardly check the beyond games one.

Nems: Yeah i like the joan of arc tut it shows me alot about modeling and skinning.

jigalypuff: Thanks mate i just gotta install it then start modeling, also do u know how to set a bg image on 3dgs model editor as i use that most of all for low poly models (various objects)

thanksyou all for your replies it has helped me alot