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Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: mogsa] #173278
12/18/07 19:51
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...the features could be like WoW...




that made my day.

Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: mogsa] #173279
12/21/07 08:19
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Very cool idea.To make a game is hard work...the fact that you want to make a game and have all these interesting ideas is a start.It's always good to create a small level as suggested above and see how that goes,play around with the level to help you build inspiration to form a team;then go from there.Good luck.


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Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: mogsa] #173280
01/06/08 23:52
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Definatly a cool idea dude.. I just started using 3dGS a few days ago but I have extensive knowledge in actionscript (flash).

I agree that you should start small, but I also understand where you are coming from. I guess it's to say that many of the people on this forum are professionals and want to get paid and be 'professionals', meh. I was kinda looking for a group, but the thing is I don't even know what my specialty is! lol

So for the people who 'laugh' at this post, just remember that the people who made WoW and are now godly rich, started by saying his exact same words.

Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: RJHitman] #173281
01/07/08 03:20
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So for the people who 'laugh' at this post, just remember that the people who made WoW and are now godly rich, started by saying his exact same words.



I highly doubt that.
Call it realistic goals, common sense, whatever... but if you're all new to game development and you want to start off with the next "aaa class mmo game" you'll fail miserably and nobody will ever take you serious.

Oh yeah, and "the pople who made WoW", you know there's a multi million dollar company behind such massive games right? Thats a little different from us hobby or semi-pro guys

In the end it all comes down to this, start small or don't start at all.


Do not underestimate people because they have a low post count... :0
Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: Ready] #173282
01/07/08 03:31
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Well if you want to look at it in that perspective you will never get there. I am 17 years old, and I have my whole life in front of me. Now, if I wanted a hobby I would go pick up my xbox controller and have at it. I didn't pay 100 dollars for a hobby. I'm not saying that me or anyone else reading this post is or even wants to create a game as big and extreme as WoW. You assuming to that extent was your own fault. Me personaly, I hope to learn from this program because I will be going into the field when I get out in life. I have noticed that there are quite a few people in this community (the forums) that seem to favor discouraging over encouraging, although this is not true for some.

So my retoricle (if that is how it is spelled XD) question to you is: What is the constructive result within this community that you are trying to acheive by discouraging anyone who dares to do what they dream?

Regards,
RJ

Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: RJHitman] #173283
01/07/08 07:53
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Saving them the wasted time and effort put into way too overambitious projects.
I've been doing game and mod development for almost 10 years now so I guess I can say I know what I'm talking about


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Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: RJHitman] #173284
01/07/08 08:47
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Actually, we're only discouraging him from making a game that he will fail at! Trust me, spend some time on the forums and you will start to recognize those kind of projects! But instead of just saying "you can't do it" we are telling him what he can do, and what most of the beginners CAN do - make a small game. That's the way to do it!
It's like discouraging someone from jumping off a cliff - there is always a small possibility that he will survive, but nevertheless, it's not a smart idea.

Leonardo


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Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: RJHitman] #173285
01/07/08 18:18
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So for the people who 'laugh' at this post, just remember that the people who made WoW and are now godly rich, started by saying his exact same words.




Lol, but Blizzard has over ten years of experience with online games dating back to their earlier Starcraft and Warcraft games, probably even before those. I'm 100% certain they were in a WAY different position when they started working on WoW as you are.

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I agree that you should start small, but I also understand where you are coming from. I guess it's to say that many of the people on this forum are professionals and want to get paid and be 'professionals', meh. I was kinda looking for a group, but the thing is I don't even know what my specialty is! lol




It has little to do with professionals or being professional. If someone sets goals that are rather unrealistic, it's only because we want to help that we warn people about it. There's no such thing as a 'curse' on MMO games or something, but it's not something a newbie can handle. I'm not even sure if a small team without the necessary funds could manage it, probably not. It takes tremendous amounts of resources, servers on which your game is running, good graphics so people will even bother to start playing, marketing and so on. I don't think now is a good time to start an MMO when the competition is this fierce. By the time World of Warcraft 2 gets finished your game is likely to not even be finished, let alone as good as World of Warcraft 1.

Making a 2D MMO with a distinct abstract style, something less ambitious has a better chance of survival.

Basically if someone sets it their goal to re-make World of Warcraft when just starting out with 3dgs, what they're really trying to do is to pick up a guitar, claim they can play it like Jimi Hendrix within a year and obviously fail miserably at it. When it comes to 3dgs you might even come to the conclusion along the way that your guitar lacks some vital strings you'll need to play the same songs Hendrix did if you even come to the point of actually playing a song,

Cheers


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Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: PHeMoX] #173286
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I understand where you guys are coming from but let me put it this way:
What good are you getting out of this forum by discouraging other people?

You discouraging him will only stop his overall creation of this game. YES that means I'm implying he can do it. That just doesn't mean it's going to be made any time in the next four years, but you guys discouraging him only makes him less - confident and though down the software an idea altogether.

So maybe instead of discouraging, we can do what I'm pretty sure this forum was made for by helping support him to learn this software to the point where he might be invited or even start a large group or maybe even a corporation that will establish such a project.

Re: AnyBody Wanna Create an Game? [Re: RJHitman] #173287
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You discouraging him will only stop his overall creation of this game.
... but you guys discouraging him only makes him less - confident



Maybe I'm making a assumption myself, but that looks like a psychology or personality related assumption. Perhaps, the user reacts with the "I'll show you fu<kers zest"(c) when dealing with discouragement and naysayers?

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What good are you getting out of this forum by discouraging other people?



Good? Where do you think you are?
"Stick n justify, sharpy."


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