Hi

TGEA (Torque Game Engine Advanced) shows a Gears-of-War-Level.
I'm very impressed.

Watch the Video


Any chance to do this with A7/Lite-C ???


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Wow, I am really impressed. Look at the shadows everywhere! The level is big and open and shaders look impressive.

I did not know that TGEA is that good. I am almost converted

Hm its good...but somehow I'm not that impressed by it!

and yeah i think its also possible with a7...just wondering how much fps you would get...

Scorpion: Can you compile such a level for the community and make a video of it?

sorry but i don't see anything awe-inspiring.

frank knows i say "a7 could do it" a lot and we have a few disagreements as to how much should be integrated into the engine and how much should be left to the user, but this here is nothing special and could be done with very little programming work ( <100 lines contest, anyone? perhaps something similar. no joke*) and is mostly a matter of artwork.

characters don't even cast shadows.

it is nice, though, and should set an example to some to rely more on art and less on integrated shaders.

julz

*jcl said the standard include files that come wtih gs don't count towards line-count.

I'm not impressed either, but not because it doesn't look good in terms of level design or the 3d model.

The resolution of certain things is a bit low, like the trees for example. The little gameplay that is shown is quite horrible, but visually it's looking not bad. Now before you say this is nitpicking take a look at Gears of War itself and you'll see that it's not on the same level. Especially the post-processing shaders are missing.

By the way, is there somewhere a higher resolution movie with this for download? Perhaps part of why it looks low-res is because of the video resolution.



If you provide us with the art or a exported version of the level, sure why not? I'm not sure if it would run 'out of the box' or need adjustments to get good fps, but basically it shouldn't be impossible. Needless to say someone should do this to prove it I guess.

ok, maybe Julz can compile such a level.

I agree with JulzMighty that this level looks good because of the artworks. But I already mentioned the shadows above.

Even Scorpion (he just told this would be possible in A7) asked in a thread this question:
"btw...is there already some kind of shadowmapping that could used in a7..with acceptable results? and if not(I guess so? )..."

This means he is aware of the shadow problems. So I would like to see it. I mean: shadows and shaders at the same time, normal-mapping, bloom, hdr, vegetation, a big level with good scene-management.
And please remember the render-speed of the small venice-demo with only a watershader without transparency.

Did you see the 'Warehouse' demo too? It's not perfect, but it does have very nice lighting and shadows and runs at very acceptable speeds on my PC. I think if one were to add some nice models with better animation and perhaps additional shaders it could very well look even better.

actually i am not impressed either. :p are those shadows realtime? doesn't look like it. the character doesn't seem to get affected by shadows but maybe i didn't see it properly because of the bad video quality.

omg did i sound a bit too braggy? I don't have the time nor the models/textures for such a demo...

But really look at the ressources we have: Bloom shader, metal shader and all kind of normal and env shading. And we have got also a powerful scripting system... so there is nothing this engine does not have.(and what I see by dexsoft and sometimes in the showcase the user are doing really great work with models, too)
The biggest problem would be 'real' shadowmapping. because there was nothing done( that was contributed) in a quality could be used in a game. but it _can_ be done in this engine!