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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200243
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at the moment the main problem of gamestudio is the map compiler. it doesn't work properly for polygon soups. once it works (hopefully soon) it will be much easier to do something like that in gamestudio. it also shouldn't be slower then. outdoor levels like in the video don't make use of portals or anything.

and like already has been said it can be done already with some workarounds (i have seen a video from david lancaster for example (he didn't show it on the forum yet) which i found much nicer than this one).

Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: ello] #200244
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 Originally Posted By: ello
frank, you should be able to create such levels already with your skills. appying shaders is not the problem, those are already in the a7 library


Thanks Ello.

But how do I apply shadows (even if they are only static) in such a big outdoor level like they did in the demo? How can I setup the scene-management to display big levels like this with good performance?

Is there really a bloom shader in the official download version of A7? I did not find it.


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200246
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not sure if it's the one but there is one at
<GameStudio Directory>\code\pp_bloomblur


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Quad] #200247
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Do you use official version or Beta?


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200248
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no , its a7.07 .


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200249
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you can apply materials as well as actions easily to a bunch of selected entities.

Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200252
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Meh, it seems that the art is the key to victory. I know how much art this kind of scene requires and how long and hard it is.

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I could say the same about your works if I would be that ignorant or arrogant.


ignorant and arrogant? Wow. I'm not either, I'm pretty open. It's true that I may not be able to create such artwork, without some help, but I know that the scene there is nothing, but great and clever use of artwork and shaders. There is no A.I. or other advanced programming, at least I didn't see any. Tell me if I'm wrong.

Now, let's not make this as an flamewar/fight and deal my critics like a man. It's not your game or anything.


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Quad] #200256
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This pp_bloom is really nice and much better than the one come with A7.

I just curious as Conitec is in game tool industry over a decade, what is the obstacle to copy the idea from other tool makers like Unity, S2, BV, etc....and Blade3D is catching up...

Lack of money or lazy ;\)

Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Inestical] #200258
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 Originally Posted By: Inestical
..but I know that the scene there is nothing, but great and clever use of artwork and shaders. There is no A.I. or other advanced programming, at least I didn't see any. Tell me if I'm wrong.


No, you are not wrong. This might be true. I also don't see AI and such. But you missed the topic. This is not a game. It is a video of an unfinished demo.

Just ask yourself is there any advanced AI in the official Conitec warehouse demo or in the venice demo?


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Re: "Gears of Torque" TGEA demo [Re: Machinery_Frank] #200259
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Just ask yourself is there any advanced AI in the official Conitec warehouse demo or in the venice demo?

Propably not. But AI is not only thing counted as advanced programming.

To me, I still ain't impressed. It has great graphics. So what, there is shop near me with the same quality and better. It's propably just me, but if I put up demo, even tech demo, it should show at least that everything is balanced.

Great graphics means great programming.
Great programming should always mean great graphics.

The demo shows great graphics, but not great programming. Let it be unfinished or not.

I hope you catch my drift ;\)


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