Yes, I know and it's all because of some kind of idea you had that 3dgs would someday get the magical 'make game' button. Or at least it sounds an awful lot like that to me, no offense.



Right, but maybe I didn't. In these kind of discussions people aren't really interested in what an engine can actually do, they are only talking about what an engine should do and how it's lacking. I've never said 3dgs is perfect, torque is not perfect either, I did say though that 3dgs probably can render the same amount of geometry and so on as this torque demo does.



You're talking as if A7 and Lite-C never happened. You are basically talking as if Conitec did nothing the last couple of years and I really don't think that's fair.