Why Do I Die,
I'm not in the least interested in changing your fate in God or 'moving' you from Creationism or whatever to Evolutionism or Darwinism or whatever those 'opposite' fields are called. Consider me neutral, I don't gain money, whatever you root for. The only reason i posted in your thread is to explain you the evolution theory (I hope that since I said theory you'll pull your horses down now), because you seemed to have difficulties grasping how 'perceived randomness' can create such complex designs.
I'll make an effort to answer all your questions but you seem to be pissed of about something and I don't care for getting personally attacked. If you have a problem about Evolution being tought in schools, take it with your education system. In Greece, I never heard of Darwin at school while 'Christian Studies' was a major examined module for the first 9 years of school. Children belonging to different religions had to wait in the schoolyard for 45mins when that module was being tought. So whatever I know about evolution, is from personal research. In the school we were too busy learning about raining bread and talking snakes.
Now , if the first living cell just binded out of chance , then it should mean that we should fairly easily be able to reproduce it today , but we CANNOT do it , because it's not that simple a process , and since we today cannot understand it , and probably wont for a long time to come, if ever , it's because it is a process too complicated for us to understand , so how could such a complicated and impossible to replicate(as of today) process happen all on it's own by chance ?
You should have been able to answer this question on your own if you've understood my previous post. It's not just 'chance'. Even today, scientists use the method of natural evolution instead of human logic to solve many problems. So you underestimate the effectiveness of NE and overestimate our current understanding of the universe and everything.
Space Antenna designed using Genetic Algorithms by NASA. No-one can explain why this particular design works, but it's more efficient than any design created with our current knowledge of physics.It is very obvious we were created to take advance to all of the properties of our existence , we have eyes to see , ears to hear , nose to smell , and nerves to sense touch , and a brain that handles all of this things for automatically so we dont have to worry about any of them , they are all done for us , all we have to do is enjoy our being, does this harmonic design look like something that could have evolved out of chance ?
Again, it's not chance alone. And any creature will evolve instincts (if we ignore human logic for a moment) to help him survive using its current capabilities. Those that fail to evolve beneficial instincts will die.
DNA is the code which tells all cells what to do , what they are , and how to behave, does this system appear to be a system that just created itself ?
Irregardless of what it 'appears', Natural Evolution can explain how DNA evolved perfectly. I gave you an explanation already in my first post.
so , who created this code ?
Each cell evolved from having no DNA, to a simple DNA, to a very very complex one.
Oh yeah , it created itself right , somehow , that first cell billions of years ago , found a way to replicate itself , and created a system to tell it's daughter cell what to do , it created the DNA system , or did this first cell already have DNA ?
Everything evolved. That's the big chasm between evolution and intelligent design or whatever you call it. The first cell didn't 'figure out' anything. The DNA inside the first cell was evolved abiding to the evolution rules like everything else. And the same with the re-production method. The cells that didn't re-product got extinct while the ones that did survived.
Does this make sense to you ?
More sense than talking snakes.
Wait wait wait , so the meteor ONLY killed the dinasours ?
I don't know what meteor you're talking about. There are many theories that try to explain the extinction of dinosaurs. If all species (plants, bugs, mammals, birds, fish) got wiped out 65 million years ago it would be improbable for us to be here now, so I highly doubt this. Again, you have a hard time accepting a theory like the Ice Age, but Dinosaurs and Humans co-existing happily only four thousand years ago makes perfect sense to you.. Shouldn't you be worried about explaining how dinosaurs got extinct under the new earth theory? The only recent disaster I can think of (which hasn't been proved, but it's mentioned in all major religions, which is interesting) is the Big Flood. But that still doesn't explain what happened to the sea dinosaurs.
So all other forms of life overcame the meteor , only dinasours suffered the consequenses ?
We have so many species on earth, that there will always be some that will be immune to any known disaster(like roaches can withhold a nuclear attack). But I'm not familiar with that meteor theory, or whatever happened at dinosaur times.
From my understand it killed basically everything , or was this the ice age theory ?
Nothing more to say on this....
I have no idea. I don't follow the whole thing with fossils or whatever because I never had to prove to anyone about NE (until now I guess, but honestly I'm only answering questions...) To me, NE makes so much sense that I don't need any further proof. The proof for me is how we are able to observe NE today (genetic mutations, children looking like their parents, small changes in the human specie (more and more people being born without earlobes, more and more being immune to AIDS), etc). However, I'm sure you're over exaggerating, cause I've heard about fossils being found all the time.
talk about blindly believing something.
I know.. So, what religion are you in?
If you believe evolution , then , plants and humans are actually related , and both living organisms actually come from a common ancestor. Really ?
Yes
Why would this living organism make such a DRASTIC change , from animal to plant , or plant to animal and , on top of that , eventually , evolution to the point where planlife is massively abundant , and there are even trees which give fruit, which , how convinient , we can eat , again chance ?
It is highly unlikely that a plant transformed to an animal or visa versa. Out of all the population of primitive organisms only a very small fraction evolved into what we know as plants. Later on, other primitive organisms evolved to animals and fish. Just like only a small fraction of apes around the world evolved to the homo sapiens, independantly in every continent. Some species of humans got extinct while others managed to survive. Btw, in Creationism how exacly do you explain that Indians were living in america before colombus discovered them? Eve traveled a lot?
Now trees use 'fruit' to re-produce themselves. For the benefit of the tree, the fruit needs to evolve to something nutritious to animals, in hope that one will unwillingly transfer the seed to a new location while trying to eat the fruit. On the other hand, animals themselves evolved their digestive system to be able to use the nutritions in fruits since they were so easily available.
Because this fruits could be anything , yet , there is enough variety of fruits and vegetables in the world for us to not ever have to eat meat if we chose not to. Is this coincidence too ?
I'm sure that at some point, some human species evolved to only digest meat while others evolved to only digest veggies. Since the specie which could digest both had an easier time finding food, it re-produced more than the others, and eventually the other two species became extinct.
How about the fact that fruits (nature's nutritious candy for us) are basically the right size for us , and have the right amount of nutrients for us , oh yeah , all of this is pure luck and chance right ?
They are the right size for us because we only cultivate those. Farmers get to choose what to seed in their fields, thus effectively changing the environment. An evolved fruit which is the right size and nutritious to humans will have more chances to survive(because humans will help in its re-production) than one that is not. If a tree grows non-nutritious fruit for humans, we will most likely chop that tree for wood.
Why havn't plants evolved to walk and look for water and sunlight ?
Because that would require major changes in their architecture. Why humans haven't evolved to fly? Never say never though, we haven't reached the end of evolution transformations. All species will continue to evolve indefinably.
They've been here just as long as anything else , why dont they move ?
Why should they? They get along just fine as they are..
You sure ask a lot of questions... I've been typing for over an hour now, so I'll need to take a break! I will answer a last one for you though:
Now if you wanna believe a bean created it , well thats on you , but science has not proved what created it , they have only discovered it was created , I believe by God , they believe by a bean , you tell me who makes more sense ?
Scientists speculate, but under no circumstances should a scientist say this: "It is my scientific opinion that there is no God. All there is is beans.. Beans!" A scientist is agnostic by nature and will only accept things that have been proven and only speculate about the rest. That's why you won't see many scientists touch the subject of God, but they will touch certain aspects of a religion which can easily be disproven (yes, like the talking snakes..)
