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all of the above sounds excellent...to me shaders are the holy grail, but with no programming experience its out of reach... I am working on getting some shader professionals I work with into it, like I did with Newton...

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That sounds cool. Whether you go that route, or someone cranks out a Rendermonkey convertor..the future seems bright for all of us that can't wrap our noggins around this. I took an Assembler class a few years ago so it isn't totally Greek to me, but this looks 10 times more complicated than that basic junk.