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If you feel so strongly about it, why dont you give your land to the Palestinians? The problem with judging one country having 'rights' is that you always bring your own 'rights' in question.


I would not have problems with that at all, but the Netherlands is already becoming pretty crowded. We're just a small country and although for me personally it doesn't mean they aren't welcome... such a solution might be a bit of a problem in practice.

Also, why should we give land to the Palestinians when it is really the Jews that got a country assigned to them that for sure didn't belong to them at that time.

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(In other words I dont trust that the Chinese are building this railroad only for exploiting Tibet's minerals--they have a double use of bringing a transportation infrastructure towards the middle east)

But I will concede that I didn't know about the article...or the alleged minerals...so thanks.


No worries and yes it's probably quite obvious that the Chinese have build this railroad for more than just tourism purposes and 'modernizing' Tibet.

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I am not aware of Netherlands history but I am sure that there was some kind of barbarian tribe which took your land to begin with, I think it was the Franks which finally held it and it was part of the 17 provinces held by the Dukes of Burgundy. Whichever group finally held on to it only did so through brute violence. The only reason why you sit comfortably in front of your computer is because some king and some army decided that they were going to O_C_C_U_P_Y your land. Do you wish to give it back or do you feel like the Netherlands truly has a "right" to it?


I'm a direct descendant from the Franks though... hence my last name. wink Still, yeah, I get your point.

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Nobody really has a 'right' to anything on earth, we all just murdered each other in order to possess it.


And yet there's still plenty of space left for all of us. I'm probably far to idealistic when it comes to the harsh reality we're really living in, I give you that. :p From a standpoint of morality it would make sense not to 'occupy' any territory, but when it comes to wealth and resources the violence seems to know no limits.

I guess this only proves evolution in that only the strong survive... in the end.


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