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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Joozey] #209281
06/02/08 10:42
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Joozey, you are right concerning the map and we are going to ask the creator concerning the copyright. However to give an answer to your questions about the SG copyright : We are NOT going to SELL our game, it is only a free game for fans made by fans. Moreover concerning the copyright : if we take into account what fastlane69 said any modification for games such as : Half-Life (1 or 2) or Doom 3 .... would be prohibitten , isn't it ?? So, in this situation it appears that we have the right to do it. What it is very important, is what are we going to do with our game. The fact is , if we want to take benefit from our game we MUST buy the copyright ,but we are not in this case.

Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Maverick2500] #209283
06/02/08 10:53
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About the "for fans-by-fans" thing, there were other projects with the same idea around,
and as far as i remeber, at least two failed because of legal treatment.

If you do a search with the term stargate here, you should find some feedback on this topic.


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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Joozey] #209293
06/02/08 11:38
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Originally Posted By: Joozey
http://sgtne.mach-creation.com/p1d_358_en.html
I thought dennis (helghast) and lennart (lennart_hillen) made that level for a contest in 2007?

Anyhow, pretty nice concept already, but the disclaimer doesn't look very convincing of you ask me...


to be exact here, Lennart did all this on his own, but used his style which can be found in our RPG project as well (TRoF - the Realms of Fantasy). But this was something he did on his own... however looking at these screens, they dont even look like they were changed, just badly photoshopped... whatever floats your boat man, but please ask lenn if you are allowed to showcase it as your stuff without giving credits (i know i wouldnt like that).

-dennis


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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Helghast] #209313
06/02/08 13:13
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The screen shots for P9L-958 are from the old GameStudio level building tutorial (which I had developed myself). While the level and textures are free for all GameStudio users to use, it seems to be poor judgment to blatantly use the level, unchanged, as a level for your game.


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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Dan Silverman] #209318
06/02/08 13:46
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There was just an article in a magazine called "Gamestar" about abandonware and another one about fan projects.

They wrote that fan projects can be closed at all time (and they do especially if a brand still is in use). Sometimes they close their eyes but can stop such a project at every time. They mentioned a lot of examples where this happened. But sometimes a fan project survives (if the brand is almost dead).

A HL2 or other game modification is another story but still similar. Did you ever read the license of such games? Here is an example: If you make a modification for Enemy Territory - Quake Wars then every material that you put into this project automatically becomes a property of the original owners of this game. So all your textures and models become property of Atari as an example. They can stop your project, they can even sell it as their own and dont have to share the profit with you. All that would be possible.

This is the reason why I dont dare to render my models and textures in such game engines. The risk is simply too high.

But if you dont care and you do it only for the fame - then just continue. smile


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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Maverick2500] #209345
06/02/08 16:29
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Quote:
What it is very important, is what are we going to do with our game. The fact is , if we want to take benefit from our game we MUST buy the copyright ,but we are not in this case.


That is an incorrect and potentially dangerous view of copyright. What your intentions are is irrelevant. Commercial or Free is irrelevant. The fact that you are using someone else's copyright without their permission is the only relevant fact.

The solution is quite simply really:

This is the email address to MGM's copyright department --
DMCA@MGM.com

or their snail mail --
MGM
10250 Constellation Boulevard
Los Angeles, California 90067
Attn: Legal Department/DMCA Notices

If you plan on having a future in the games industry, you'll want to do right by your fellow colleagues, right? So why don't you settle this question once and for all and ask for permission directly?

Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: fastlane69] #209364
06/02/08 17:35
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any modification for games such as : Half-Life (1 or 2) or Doom 3 .... would be prohibitten , isn't it ??

not true, since in the license it says its allowed, plus like frank said, it also makes all your content useless because It gives them freedom take it all.

as far as using other peoples levels, it says in the progress bar that your level design is 75% done, lets hope the 75% is all your own maps, and that these are just test levels, if not then that is incredibly rude. especially that every map is marked as created by daniel74, thats straight up wrong and potential for legal trouble, because even if they were free, i have never saw free software were the license say, go ahead, take credit for making it as well.

Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: lostclimate] #209385
06/02/08 18:41
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Looks like they pulled the link on P9L-958. At least it is no longer working when I attempt to click it.


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Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: Dan Silverman] #209389
06/02/08 18:56
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It appears they took off all the ones Im familiar with, maybe they were using them for prototyping, again, I just dont think they should have claimed on the pics taht they were made by someone else, the levels they do show are fairly nice, and I've never seen them before so good job on thme if your team made them. again tho you are on dangerous grounds to lose all your hard work with a quick cease and desist.

Re: Stargate : The New Enemy [Re: lostclimate] #209391
06/02/08 19:01
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Even though it might be copyright breaching, it does look good and will be popular, as the original stargate game was cancelled.


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