Yes, I can tell right off the bat that the C4 engine is the result of bad programming. lol the waterfall effect was just terrible. That said the lighting was pretty decent, but there was something wrong with the blooming. I'd love to see a nice shooter with it. I wish I could try the level editor

After I clear this chunk of hard drive space I'll give leadworks then XNA a shot. I believe I've heard of XNA, I might of played a game made with it.