Spike let me say it louder.....

QUIT WHINNING

I read the thread it's mainly drivel....

If you need money to build your artistic game, so be it.

Many games can be built with lousy art. "Crayon Physic's" comes to mind, even "Line Rider" has what what I would call programmer art. They both have been picked up and are being turned into retail games, before that they had great success online.

Use this forum to find some art help. Spend a $1000 on some art or barter with an artist....

If you do'nt have the resources to make a graphic's heavy game, try something else...

Go outside of you narrow game style box, and think differently...

All game creation is art, it's not locked away from those that do not have money for art or code. Use the tools that are available, work within your art constraints, and make something amazing... That's what truly creative artists do in all mediums........ Posers whine and quit....

Ken