Well it worked.....the test game that you sent me. I saw "Rudie" falling over again and again, I was able to move around and the screen was not black at all, and there was visible lighting. I have come to conclude it is an....Operator error on my part lol. Although you probably knew this already. Thanks for the test level as I know my Game Studio is not F'd up now. But now I feal like a complete dunce. So it's good and bad. Well what do I do now? lol sorry man you must be as frustrated as I am right about now. Trying to explain this to someone who just can't get it right. Thanks so much for all your help, both of you, it means alot.