i use both a6 and the free lite c , right now i am converting one of my older a6 projects to lite c in the hopes of entering it in the fall 2008 contest , the conversion process can be a bit hard sometimes but , i am learning quite alot about the lite c language , now if i had had someone else do this for me , yes it would be converted but i would nt have learned from it. get my point , and hey if you run into something you just cant figure out , well , that is what this forum is for