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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: Dan Silverman]
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11/02/08 21:45
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It would be very cool, imo, to even have the levels the same (same layout) and even the "hidden" areas in the same place, etc, but update the graphics, use actual 3D models instead of sprites for the enemies, etc. Imagine the original Doom made with the latest Doom or Unreal engine. Maybe not the latest Unreal engine, but check out Doomsday engine. It runs with Original Final/Ultimate Doom 1/2 Hexen Heretic WADs using a modern 3D Engine with lighting features. Also there is a lot of user provided content like 3d models which nicely integrate into the game and replace 2d sprites. Users have provided TONs of hires texture packs. Check it out, it's a lot of fun! It made me play through Hexen + Deathknights Addon one more time although I had a lot more modern games on my PC installed.
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: Dan Silverman]
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11/02/08 23:24
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I mean I'm sure you could play all Doom levels and weapons using the Doom 3 engine, etc. Sure I would. One reason is simple nostalgia. I played Doom when it first came out and I would love to see a professional homage to the original game. It would be very cool, imo, to even have the levels the same (same layout) and even the "hidden" areas in the same place, etc, but update the graphics, use actual 3D models instead of sprites for the enemies, etc. Imagine the original Doom made with the latest Doom or Unreal engine. Nostalgia freaks would go nuts for this sort of thing . This would be like creating Doom for what it was meant to be ... how they would have created it back then if they had the technology of today. Yes but you wouldn't really be playing Doom now would you? I mean, in this new Doom you'd probably be able to jump and look up and down.. But that's not doom anymore cause now the gameplay is different resulting in a different game. One of the cool things i liked about doom is how you could play it without a mouse, making it feel so much faster and ultra responsive than newest FPSs. I actually still play 1vs1 battles of the first level of Doom 2 with my cousin when we get the chance. I know that level better than I know my home to be honest.. Anyhow, you're in luck cause I just googled it and I immediatly found a Doom 3 mod that gives you all original levels, monsters and weapons of Doom1.. It's called Classic Doom.
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: LarryLaffer]
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11/02/08 23:37
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Actually you are right, a lot of these games would be quite difficult to remake in the same style or even perspective. It's why Fallout 3 is 3D now, not 2D isometric. But it inevitably makes it a different game altogether. I guess nostalgia alone just isn't enough to relive these great experiences as remakes, but some remakes are very worthy interpretations of the originals, edit: Will do! Cheers
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: LarryLaffer]
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11/02/08 23:38
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http://www.doomsdayhq.com/Give it a try I think you CAN jump and look up/down, but you don't need to. Isn't that great news? I just started it and it feels like real Doom gameplay wise.
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: PHeMoX]
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11/03/08 00:25
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What's that? Codename: Eagle? No - that actually is the all-famous Goldeneye for the N64. Well it's a remake that was done with obviously better graphics. It might not get released though because it was developed by Rare (i.e. the original on the N64) which now is owned by Microsoft but the rights still belong to Nintendo. After a bit of a hassle Mircosoft offered to make this a "virtual console style game" for both plattforms but Nintendo refused and so we're probably not going to see this at all... So sad - it was such an amazing game and I'd sure buy that remade version... Enjoy your meal Toast
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: FBL]
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11/03/08 00:28
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Yes but you wouldn't really be playing Doom now would you? I mean, in this new Doom you'd probably be able to jump and look up and down.. But that's not doom anymore cause now the gameplay is different resulting in a different game. You don't have to add new features (jump, etc), but simply update the look to moderd standards. Doom was a scary game in its day because of the way the creatures jumped out at you from behind the walls. They could still do that, but the environment and the models could be updated. Using the type of lighting/shadows we have today would go a long way toward making a remake of Doom even more "frightening". True 3D sound could be added and other environmental effects. Mega-details could be added to the levels adding realism. And, at the same time, the nostalgia of the original game could be preserved. On the other hand, a remake could try to get into the minds of the original creators and ask this question, "If they had access to one of today's game engines back then, how would that have changed the game?" And then proceed to create that while, at the same time attempting to preserve the original. I don't know. I think it would be fun. In fact, I am thinking of a little GameStudio project on the side. Why not recreate the first level of Doom in GameStudio using the latest that this engine has to offer? I may try to create the first level's environment and add more details and appropriate lighting. It would be fun .
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Re: Old Games that Should Be Remade
[Re: broozar]
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11/03/08 00:51
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I don't know. I think it would be fun. In fact, I am thinking of a little GameStudio project on the side. Why not recreate the first level of Doom in GameStudio using the latest that this engine has to offer? I may try to create the first level's environment and add more details and appropriate lighting. It would be fun smile .
Could even be a little competition on the site.
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