Originally Posted By: Tiles
Crap code is written by noobs and newbies. Not from the tools. There may be some need to fix here and there. But that are minor flaws that can be fixed very quick with running w3c validation and clean the flaws up. Which is ways faster than spending weeks to handcode the stuff.

The point is, most of the times a working code is good enough. No need for extra polishing just to catch the hand coders eyes. And Dreamweaver and Kompozer produces working code.


That's all wrong.
If a webpage is created, it has to be done PROPERLY. Many many many tools deliver pure HTML crap whoich displays differently on each browser.
It's the same with games and any other business.
Beleive me - people are indeed looking at the HTML code to see whether the page is done properly. When searching for someone they can pay for work, this is an easy check how "clean" soemone works. May sound weird, I know - but I've seen that.

As you said "There may be some need to fix here and there" - searching all these palces, going through each single file takes more time than doing it properly right away. Then you want to do an update using your wysiwyg and it removes all your changes again.
No way this is proper webdesign/workflow.

I dropped all those editors long ago and in fact got faster with development.