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Re: Hardware Question / New PC
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11/20/08 13:02
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This is interesting.
But I am quite confused about Linux. There are so many distributions and versions. I would not know which one to choose. And after this I am not sure why I should boot it even if it is there. I do not code programs there. My customers all use Windows. Only C++ has some decent GUIs there and games are rare. My modeling tools do not run at Linux, only GIMP and Blender will do. This is very restrictive.
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Re: Hardware Question / New PC
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11/20/08 15:05
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ok, I did some research about memory usage, 32 and 64 bit. This is what I got:
32 bit Windows: max 2 GB memory per task max 4 GB memory per OS (some of them gets lost because of addressing the hardware)
64 bit Windows: max 4 GB memory per task max 128 GB memory per OS (theoretically it would be much much more)
This shows me that I need much more memory to use a 64 bit OS efficiently. If I have "only" 4 GB then I can subtract 1 GB for Vista and maybe another one (or less) for addressing the hardware. But keep in mind that 64-bit addressing of hardware uses more memory than 32-bit addresses.
At the end you can use only about 2 GB for your task and that is exactly what I get with a 32-bit OS.
So it will only make a difference if I have more than 4 GB RAM in my PC.
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Re: Hardware Question / New PC
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11/20/08 15:22
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yes, 8GB and 64-bit make some sense. Even if you lose more through the wider addresses it still has some more RAM left and you can easily run several graphic tools parallel without using temporary memory on HDD.
Maybe I should do it that way: partition 1: XP 32-bit partition 2: Vista 64-bit RAM: 8GB
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Re: Hardware Question / New PC
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11/20/08 15:38
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i currently only have 4gb ram but use 64bit XP and don't have any problems. Yes. I am sure you will not have problems. But as my calculation shows you will barely have an advantage as well. I read several sources about memory usage of 64 bit. And many show that addressing and CPU instructions use about 40 percent more memory. I also read that the 64-bit version of the game "Crysis" was not faster than 32-bit. They told that it actually was faster but the longer addressing slowed it down at the same time. So it was the same like 32-bit at the end. And Crysis does not use more than 2 GB RAM (32 and 64-bit).
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Re: Hardware Question / New PC
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11/20/08 15:51
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cpu instructions... that means the machine code and also not the data i think? i haven't yet noticed any 64bit applications using 40% more ram than their 32bit counterparts. 64bit windows makes a difference for me because of the 2gb per process and 3gb in total limit of 32bit windows. for example 64bit blender can use 3.5gb ram or so on my pc. and once i upgrade to 8gb i won't have to install a new windows. 
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