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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: Damocles_] #270529
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Da stellt sich aber auch die Frage: Wie stellt man en anspruchsvolles Spielerlebnis für den Endnutzer sicher, ohne eine "gute" KI?
Eine mögliche Antwort: Trefferzonen!!! Ein Beispiel: der angreifende Zombie ist nur am Kopf verwundbar, oder nur am Bauch, oder... das wurde in Dead Space schon angedeutet, da gab's ja auch Monster, die nur nach Treffern in bestimmte Zonen endgültig den Geist aufgaben - Oder nach Zerstückeln eben. laugh

EDIT: darkinferno, you'll love my game... I just implemented the minigun yyou sent me laugh (more or less, it doesn't shoot yet)

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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: the_clown] #270539
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Kennt jemand noch diesen alten Trash-Streifen?
Als die Alte auf den Tisch gedroschen wird und sie erzählt, was Zombies gerne essen ? GEHIRN, GEHIRN, GEHIRN




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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: alpha_strike] #270554
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Das iss der Film "Return of living Dead" oder im Deutschen "ZOMBIES alive" ( leider nimmer bei Amazon zu bekommen >.< )

Die Ärzte verwenden Szenen daraus für das Musik video von "Antizombie"...

Der Streifen iss cool.. aber sowas von total Sinnlos..

Zombies sind ind er Spielewelt, und seit neustem wieder in der Filmwelt, seit Residetn Evil voll im Kommen. Es folgen Evil Dead, Crawler, Dark Sector, Left4Dead... etc
Ich bin echter fan von Zombiegames. Sicherlich wegen der Gewalt in solchen Spielen.. Abr auch wegen der meist Top umsetzung einer wandelnden leiche.


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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: the_clown] #270587
06/08/09 21:31
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at my pc (duh)
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Originally Posted By: the_clown
Da stellt sich aber auch die Frage: Wie stellt man en anspruchsvolles Spielerlebnis für den Endnutzer sicher, ohne eine "gute" KI?
Eine mögliche Antwort: Trefferzonen!!! Ein Beispiel: der angreifende Zombie ist nur am Kopf verwundbar, oder nur am Bauch, oder... das wurde in Dead Space schon angedeutet, da gab's ja auch Monster, die nur nach Treffern in bestimmte Zonen endgültig den Geist aufgaben - Oder nach Zerstückeln eben. laugh

EDIT: darkinferno, you'll love my game... I just implemented the minigun yyou sent me laugh (more or less, it doesn't shoot yet)


then get it shooting... lol...

zombie horde attacks... player pulls minigun.... shouts DIEEE!!!!... oh oops, zombies right? shouts DIE AGAIN!!!

squeezes trigger, nothing happens, looks at ammo, ammo=999... wait, gamedesigner didnt make the gun shootable!!!?

NOOOO!!!!... lol... ok i'm done

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: darkinferno] #270664
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Originally Posted By: Kaufman (in Land of the Dead)
Zombies, man. [shudder] They creep me out.


Gotta have Zombies! More Zombies! Zombies-zombies!
Alien-zombies! Mechano-zombies! Nazi-zombies!
SurferDude-zombies! CheerLeader-zombies!

Your game has shadows? Put zombies in em!
Your game has water? Put zombies under it!
Your game has a player? Put zombies behind him!

[Deep Breath}[Deep Breath}...
Sorry, maybe not THAT many zombies, but zombies are a great
source of primal fear and disgust.

I really like the concept becoming more prevalent in movies these days,
FAST zombies!
I havent seen them much in games yet, but theres room there for them.

Join the ZOMBIE PRESERVATION SOCIETY today!


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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: EvilSOB] #270670
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Originally Posted By: EvilSOB
Join the ZOMBIE PRESERVATION SOCIETY today!


Many of you sound like if Zombies are a race close to extinction.

But it is the other way around. We are flooded with too much Zombies in almost every game (FEAR, Doom3, HL2, the Quake-series, Left For Dead, Dead Space and much more).

This is nothing new and will not get an innovation price especially from game magazines. Nevertheless I am looking forward to your progress.


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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: Machinery_Frank] #270674
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@Frank...
...but Zombies are like star wars.
The good and the bad are clearly defined.
And this is the reason why games with zombies, werewolfs, vampires, the peronal evil always works. You simply can´t get enough from the question ... how can you kill somebody who is already dead. It is strange to shoot on soldiers in cod, but it is mysterious to shot on something which humanity can´t explain.
This is the stuff since the beginning of mankind. The fear of the dark, the fear of the dead, fear of hell, fear of pain... suffering... death.

...fight your inner fear...
in games... with balls and great weapons. This is legal and wanted.

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: alpha_strike] #270682
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Absolutely right. That's why I think that the zombies in games should create real fear. Unstoppable. So make them have real high health amounts laugh

Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: the_clown] #270708
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Yes, I agree. Following this logic it must be really hard to fight against something so mystic, unstoppable and undead. A boss enemy could be like that. But the usual cannon fodder should be something more simple then.


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Re: neue ZOMBIE Wellle [Re: Machinery_Frank] #270735
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vegetarian zombies!
"need more toooofuuuuu...argh!!!"

love em. will always love em. and killing them will make me feel alive.

maybe we like killing them because they remind us about our brainless dayjob coworkers smile

but frank is right. they are by far not new or having a comeback. wanna talk to onc? just call a support hotline of your choice.
but in game they just add this creapy mass effect. this whole horde of enemies attacking you. you feel surrounded, you have to run and shot and kick into any direction.

it just pushed your adrenaline level way up high whenever you see a bunch of them.

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