Why do you bring up Michael Jackson here? I don't think one could argue that he was being a bad father in such circumstances at all. He might have been paranoid, but don't forget his children would have been an incredibly easy target to kidnap and demand money for. To me a lot of his actions made sense.

I don't think average joe can understand what it must be like to be so famous that you can't even walk the streets normally anymore.

Freedom ends where freedom of others starts, but this doesn't limit free will within the context of a random individual's life or even the children of Michael Jackson. As explained before there's a complex social system that determines certain limits, but again Michael Jackson did what he thought was best for his children (regardless of whether he was right)... he just did what he thought was the smartest thing to do. That again, doesn't imply he couldn't have let his kids go to a normal school. It just would be unwise.

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Free will should not mean that you should have full will
over your children.


To be honest, I don't quite get your point here as parents in the most literal sense possible do not have complete control over their kids. Kids will go play whenever they want, eat whenever they want or only after their parent got mad. Within the context appropriate for people their age, we really can decide whatever we want to.

But I really think we should deviate from the thought that 'specific actions' can tell us anything about predestination or free will, because it probably can't. If predestination is true for all of us, then not knowing the future makes it as if we're not predestined at all... meaning we'd live with free will and the whole thing would be irrelevant as we don't know if we would have decided differently if we DID have free will, right?

Predestination obviously implies a Creator of some kind, but that's something that I think seriously doesn't make much sense at all in the big picture of things.



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