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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: badapple]
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08/19/09 23:53
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I always try to live by if you've nothing good to say, say nothing at all but as Cowabanga managed to rack up 2000 posts in a year of no importance then 1 post of mine won't matter Personally I think €5 for a game or even €10 is absolutely ridiculous! The time and work involved in making even a 3minute game, I doubt anyone would be willing to part with for that amount Why not offer an incentive for: the most played, or top 3 games submitted will get a % of current / 6month future sales You'll find a small dent in your profit, but a huge increase in the number of submissions Thank you guys for the reply's, it's very clear to me how some of you think.
Some of you must get a vacation and calm down. Sending people on holiday won't get you a game made! And yes, I am a dreamer ... and dream of a better world!
Bye, and have a good life. Really not the image you want to portray of yourself, stand by it if you really want a better world! As badapple says, really don't judge an entire community on a few persons opinions!
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: DJBMASTER]
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08/20/09 10:46
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lol i always see people arguing with cowabanga, LMAO! Yeah. I guess i'll get out from this community someday because of those nice users. Anyway, i'm out of this thread, duh. But, i'll explore it for an answer for this quesion: WHAT THE HELL IS THE PROBLEM WITH "Increase the price" ???
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: badapple]
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08/20/09 12:40
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@GarniSoft: dont judge the entire forum on a few posters , when it comes to the members of this community , the good definitly outways the bad
one problem with renegade bunny hunters is , when there are no bunnys to hunt they must find new prey If you read my post well i said >> some of you
I am a dreamer ... i dream they all come true ...
www is in bewerking
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: MrGuest]
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08/20/09 12:41
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I always try to live by if you've nothing good to say, say nothing at all but as Cowabanga managed to rack up 2000 posts in a year of no importance then 1 post of mine won't matter Personally I think €5 for a game or even €10 is absolutely ridiculous! The time and work involved in making even a 3minute game, I doubt anyone would be willing to part with for that amount Why not offer an incentive for: the most played, or top 3 games submitted will get a % of current / 6month future sales You'll find a small dent in your profit, but a huge increase in the number of submissions Thank you guys for the reply's, it's very clear to me how some of you think.
Some of you must get a vacation and calm down. Sending people on holiday won't get you a game made! And yes, I am a dreamer ... and dream of a better world!
Bye, and have a good life. Really not the image you want to portray of yourself, stand by it if you really want a better world! As badapple says, really don't judge an entire community on a few persons opinions! If you read my post well i said >> some of you
I am a dreamer ... i dream they all come true ...
www is in bewerking
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: badapple]
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08/21/09 22:20
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Before you flame me do not forget that if anyone tries to make a serious offer with promised payment and the intention to go commercial, you have to actually pay your oontractors well. No one wants to get ripped off, even if you agreed to work dirt cheap. IMPORTANT: let us do not mix up "working for free just because of the spirit of game making" and real payed work. That is totally different so don't be biased.
Ok, lets go: What I don't like about Garnisoft posts is the following sentences: "Without any question for who and for what you already have a meaning about me. Thanks for the help .... I do it my self." -- So, why didn't he posted right at the beginning serious details about the project? This is more a broad hint to most of the people here, not for Garnisoft -- I think most of you hounded him out of this house.. I didn't decided here to defend or offend someone but to point that out. In addition, let us make some serious calculations to proof that the offer *is* actually ridiculous in a commercial sense:
50 games for about 5 Euro each is about 250 Euro. If I would do the games in about 27h (calculating 9€ per hour, which is alreay cheap) the fee is alright which means that I would have to spit out a game every 32mins. Ok, lets split up the work on 3-4 days with 8-9 hours for working on this each day. Too bad, that 32mins per game is a really short time period and you have to think about what game you wanna do, too. Sounds like a bet. I guess, if you don't care about graphics and polishing, don't add any fuzz and exclude the gamedesign phase, you will get certainly in 3-4 days 50 micro-games done.
Seriously.
Although... if you want to have 50 world class mini games, even with the same rate and assumed that the client delivers pre-made graphics and you are just programming it, you have to earn ~7000 Eur. And that is already cheap.
Just my thoughts.
Last edited by HeelX; 08/21/09 22:22.
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: HeelX]
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08/24/09 22:02
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I think he was talking about small casual games that are already done, not about one person making all 50 of them. He wants a collection of mutliple games from different people. And if you've made a game a while back, like someone has mentioned here, and it's just sitting on your harddrive and melting away, you may as well earn yourself 3 doughnuts with it.
~"I never let school interfere with my education"~ -Mark Twain
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Re: Can you make 50 small games
[Re: ratchet]
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10/01/09 00:03
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I think the thing is he is trying to purchase rights to the game, not just the game. In the apple store and other such sites, a player is purchasing the game. In otherwords instead of only one person purchasing the game, you may have a hundred or more purchasing that game for 3 or 5 euros. No game developer in there right mind would sell the rights to a game for 5 euros. I'm not sure what the equivalent in US dollars are, but I'm pretty sure its not that much of a difference. I know I would NOT sell my newly developed game off to a single person for 5 bucks. That's insane. Now, if I were to sell my game on a site that sells to thousands of people, depending on the game size and content, I may sell it for five bucks on there and give a small percentage to the host. That's how a business works. Besides, there aren't enough details for this project. Storing scores in a database is fine and dandy but there has to be a bigger point in the matter. If not, its a waste of time and effort for the people who are creating the games. Databasing is child's play when you compare it to creating a game.
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