Well...this probably won't get many viewers and will probably be buried very quick but that's ok. And all the newcomers will be like "i don't know you" but I'll smile and say "Hi and bye".

I and mpdeveloper_A (aka, MangaPage/ItBGames) have moved on. Kino One is probably our last game on 3DGS. We may or may not end up making some freebies with it, but we have moved on to Torque3D. We've been asked to try A7, and people have tried to convince me to use it. Well, the thing is we've only started playing with T3D and really are enjoying the ease of use and rendering. But let's not turn this into an ad thread.

You guys have provided us with so much help in the past, you really showed us that there's alot to learn. I enjoyed the help in the past, and even shaders and things like that being made "for us". You guys really helped, and 3DGS was a good learning tool. I would like to thank everyone here who gave us lots of help in the past, you guys helped make learning other coding languages not so intimidating. From asking for tutorials to releasing 2 games...it's been a good 4 years, and now's the time to move on.

Also I've noticed that people like to ask about "the next PreVa" and things of that nature, and I can't really give much away, but the story isn't over (just thought i'd put that out for the developers here who ask about it). We plan to do alot with Torque and we are liking the Garage Games community so far.

Well, if there's anything you guys have wanted to say or ask from "we've always hated your posts" to "why are you even posting this" ( lol ) then now's the time to say so.

I might still browse around the forums here from time to time and look at games or other things, but generally, this is a good bye to all you 3DGSers. I'll monitor this topic off and on till it dies.

If you guys do want to keep up with me and jonathan, you can join our IndieOtaku blog, or send me a pm. I'll add ya to my yahoo or exchange email addresses.

Oh one last thing...if anyone finds David Lancaster (i seem to have lost him) tell him to email me. We've lost contact. (David if you read this...BDL was great )