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Re: No startup window upgrade?
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10/23/09 11:45
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Most people here can live with the feature set provided by Commercial Edition. Like me. I'm making my COMMERCIAL game and I'm living with those limits. When i earn enough money from it, i simply upgrade to Pro. EDIT: Esper was faster.
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
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10/23/09 13:07
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actually, only reason for me to upgrade to pro would be the startup screen. i am happy with commercial edition.
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
[Re: Quad]
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10/23/09 15:10
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Maybe you can bypass the starter window even in commercial.
Imagine making an exe in visual studio with winAPI which runs the game.exe from the path and then it creates a window without any titlebar, just an image of the game drawn on top of it and placed at the top list of active windows.. After the game runs, you could send a message to that window with SendMessage function from lite-c to terminate it in the window procedure of that exe made in visual studio.
It would be similar to the way some games show a picture of their own game in the desktop before it goes into fullscreen.
This might work, have not tried but I will do it now.
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
[Re: Quad]
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10/23/09 15:25
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Enduriel
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Oh, fail. Thought it would be listed as "clever usage of game mechanics" as Blizzard usually says about exploits in WoW EDIT: Maybe it's not, maybe showing a lite-c logo is enough. Dunno, have to ask JCL about it
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
[Re: Cowabanga]
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10/23/09 20:06
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You can still use -nwnd during the stage in which you are making the game, but once you compile it the stat up screen will be back. Haha, you can use it in Pro only. That’s weird. I have A7 7.80 commercial edition and when I type -nwnd in SED's preferences the screen gets almost completely token away. It is still their but it reduces the startup screen time to maybe halve a second, and once I build the game the start up screen returns.
If "Pro" is the opposite of "Con", then is progress the opposite of congress?
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
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10/23/09 21:39
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Fakely removed the startup window with commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMtgK2xanIIJCL, my question now is, is this legal? I've put the logo of both A7 and Lite-c, the company name and the info, also the homepage link. It looks easier to read imo and looks more attracting. The method was just creating another window in WindowsForms, making it stay on top and making it uninteractable. Then send custom messages to engine with the HWND of the custom startup window. Once the engine could take these messages I just terminate the application in lite-c with WINAPI functions since I got the HWND by sending it.
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Re: No startup window upgrade?
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10/23/09 22:19
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Wouldn't that be considered a type of reveres engineering?
It is most likly illegal to do that or at least against the license terms, but I dont know if it would be if you got permission to do it first thoe.
If "Pro" is the opposite of "Con", then is progress the opposite of congress?
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