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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
[Re: 3run]
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05/25/10 06:37
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3run, the oxygen example has nothing to do with this example. You wrote:
"A human being who makes a sculpture, picture or a painting of someone is claiming for all practical purposes that he or she too can make the same form or image. Therefore it appears in the Sahih of Al-Bukhari and in other Hadith that on the day of Judgement, those who will make pictures will be told, ‘When you have tried to imitate us, make the imitation perfect too-if you have the power to do so. We did not simply make an image. We have invested it with a spirit too. If you claim to have created it then you better put a spirit inside the thing you have made."
Did you ask yourself what that means? It means that you should not play the role of the "creator". And if creating a picture without a soul already is a sin, then following "creations" are even worse: - a sculpture (even mentioned in your post, ZBrush does sculpting as well), - a 2d or 3d model (is basically a sculpture), - animated speaking game persons, - an animated cartoon character in a movie - a robot (for entertainment or in industry) - helping women to get pregnant
At the same time it would not be very kind to consume such products. So I ask you: Are there no pictures in your books, do you read only text books? What about magazines, newsletters? Are they all without any pictures in the islamic world? What about internet, do you read it with all images switched off?
If you really want to live this, then be consequent in each area of your life, otherwise it looks very hypocritical to many people.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/25/10 09:48
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3run, I know that Turkey isn't the same as it was before, but in the ottoman empire, they was very islamic, they didn't do anything that was against islam.
and if painting was a sin, then taking pictures would be to. don't you take pictures? and if painting was a sin, then using those painting would be a sin too? it's like a crime, if you saw you friend steal some candy, and didn't do anything about it and eated some of the candy, then you would be a criminal too!.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/25/10 14:01
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it looks like you do not know nothing Cowabanga, even if you are Arabic! I do not talk about pictures in books, or making photos and such staff, I do read normal books, I do make animated models of living, and I DO TAKE PICTURES (PHOTOS), do not complicate everything! I use to study in UAE so I use to be in some arts contests there, I even won there. I wanted to draw a human picture, but they told me that I can't too! So what can you say about that Cowabanga?! It is sin to draw living! About making photos and other staff, as I sad before, we need to ask some knowledgeable person, witch knows more than me, but as I sad do not follow your logics here!
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/25/10 14:12
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wanted to draw a human picture, but they told me that I can't too! So what can you say about that Cowabanga?! I say: The guy who told you that is an idiot, I asked a lot of 'knowledgeable' people, and they said it IS allowed. Don't try to make an argument. I said that because I do trust my 'logics'. And if you still say drawing living stuff is a sin, then can you tell me WHY is it a sin? EDIT: And how about my avatar? Is it also a sin to put it? (Hehehe, try to answer this *insert evil face here since it's a sin for 3run*)
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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05/25/10 14:20
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did he just tell you that you couldn't draw a human or did he say it was a sin?
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