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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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The question is: How much sisters are murdered by their brothers in other cultures? Every Xmas you can hear about family dramas. And often itīs all about "proudness" and fear. (Of course that sounds not so "exciting" like the term "Ehrenmord" ("honor killing")...) ...pffffft... An example from germany: http://www.stern.de/panorama/bruder-toet...ren-640561.htmlNow I wouldnīt call this extremistic. Itīs just plain stupid in my eyes.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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fogman: your example has not much to do with what I wrote. Vinuous_Beret said there are no Turkish extremist. I know, there are one. They did not kill their sisters because of psycho-logic sickness. They did because of their religion. Because they believe a daughter has to marriage the man selected by their father.
Your example is different. I know there are other reasons why people kill other people, why people kill animals and why people kill themselves. But the reason of my post was to discuss an example of extremists.
I am also not a fan of killing people especially since I do Karate sports. It is stupid but still there is the fact, that some of these stupid murders are driven by religious thoughts based in their Islamic belief. And I am absolutely sure the same applies to other religions including some crazy Christians.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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I would call this Islamic extremist. And I am absolutely sure the same applies to other religions including some crazy Christians. you said it man. killing is killing,no matter what is the motive.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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Funny thing is, that we differ between religion motives and psychologic sickness. I think we canīt really separate these motivations.
If you follow the argumentation of the, letīs say "educated atheistic hardliners", it comes out: fundamentalists are seen as psychos.
So were is the difference then?
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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So were is the difference then? the difference can only be seen when some one want's to. when the soviet union inveded Afghanistan the USA did it's best to support afghani trrorists"as allies" ,after SU got out of afghanistan,the usa saw in the same (allies) real threat to it's national security,so they invaded afghanistan to salvage the world of (trrorism). p.s: osama bin laden's family own's almost half of usa oil companies till now!!!.
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Re: Draw Muhammad Day 20th May 2010
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If you follow the argumentation of the, letīs say "educated atheistic hardliners", it comes out: fundamentalists are seen as psychos.
So were is the difference then? The difference is the motivation. If someone murders out of religious motivation then it is part of their culture. They plan this murder and they even say after the murder that they are convinced to do the right thing. They are not sorry. But when someone does it out of an affection or out of a sickness, then it is not part of a culture. They often tell later that it was wrong and that they are sorry.
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