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Die's World
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06/27/10 01:45
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This are some questions to the native speakers.
What did you think when you read the headline of this thread?
It is the translation of the German name of my homepage, but the singular of dice is written exactly the same as 'to die', so it looks kinda odd to me, but, maybe, a native speaker doesn't feel like that.
How does a sentence like this sound to you: 'when a die falls into the world, he can't see the number that makes his fate, he has to sort out his number on the way, collecting hints by the reaction of the others'?
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Re: Die's World
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06/27/10 11:56
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It does seem odd, because by-and-large native English speakers are bad at English, and will call a die "a dice".
Is it necessary to use it in the singular? Is it only one die in this world?
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Re: Die's World
[Re: JibbSmart]
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06/27/10 12:15
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Yep, actually your wording would probably work just fine in early 19th century English, but it looks strange because of its similarity with die as in "to die" or generally when I think of die as a noun I am thinking of the die used to cast metal stamps in Cutting die (Mech.), a thin, deep steel frame, sharpened to a cutting edge, for cutting out articles from leather, cloth, paper, etc. In my opinion it would be much more effective to say: "When a dice falls into the world..."
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Re: Die's World
[Re: NITRO777]
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06/27/10 12:29
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I agree with Nitro, being a native myself.
Unless of course you feel like putting... "When a multi-faceted random number generator falls into the world..." but that would sound silly....
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Re: Die's World
[Re: NITRO777]
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06/27/10 12:30
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I'm with JulzMighty here and would only use plural: "When dice fall into this world, they cannot see ..." etc.
But then, I'm no native speaker and probably wrong on approximately ninety-eight percent of all things I comment on.
Perhaps this post will get me points for originality at least.
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Re: Die's World
[Re: Pappenheimer]
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06/27/10 12:49
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Ugg, "dice's world" sounds strange too whereas "dice world" sounds ok to me. I am of course no English expert also, just reading a few pages of a Charles Dickens book a few days ago has proven that to me. All I know is what "sounds right" or even worse what "looks right" which is all subjective based on individual perception from growing up in Eastern US.
Last edited by NITRO777; 06/27/10 12:53. Reason: ironically to change some grammar problem
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Re: Die's World
[Re: NITRO777]
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06/27/10 13:03
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Do you mean "dice's" as in "belonging to someone named dice"? or "containing more than one dice"?
To me, "Dice World" sound cleaner to me... And Im from Oztralia...
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Re: Die's World
[Re: EvilSOB]
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06/27/10 13:16
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the apostroph is placed if it describes the belonging of somebody. steve's car. but if you do it in plural, you do it without apostrophe: alot of steves. so dice's world would be a world that belongs to one die, or as modern english says: dice. if you do pkural, it should be dices world. however, i agree that dice world sounds better. its like world of dice (welt der würfel, welt des würfels, würfels welt in deinem fall) and thus, id say you should use that. and while im not an expert my wife who studied anglistics agrees. and i trust ehr on that
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