Me (and all of you (Widi and his clone Valdirene , Rey_Ayanami and the_clown)) need to apologize to dvstudio first of all. Because all of your criticism and all of my tries to show you that I try to help, doesn't need to be in his topic! This is all offtopic! I hope, I helped him with sidescrolling example. Sorry dvstudio. And thank you alibaba, I'm glad to see, that some one appreciate that I try to help.